Can we please do something with Kai'sa?

Marian Cross·10/7/2018, 8:32:14 AM·41 votes·14,084 views

Like really? She has a super high pick rate while still having a good winrate. Plus shes like pick ban every game in pros and at this point its just getting boring....I mean all the ad's need their items changed due to stormrazer being so bad, but just blah....

28 Comments

KFCeytron10/7/2018, 3:30:13 PM14 votes

I'm pretty sure everyone wants to do something with Kai'Sa, dude.

Even10/7/2018, 5:27:27 PM5 votes

Kaisa 's been repeatedly gutted with her nerfs and is badly in need of compensation buffs.

The Beholder10/7/2018, 6:38:46 PM3 votes

I think personally the biggest problem with Kaisa is that she has too few weakness for her too many advantages.

She can do %missing hp damage with her passive, like Jhin (and vayne(or does she just do a flat %of true damage?)) but unlike jhin she can proc her passive rather quickly due to allied CC and her attackspeed being able to be increased, whereas jhin has to fire 3 shots at a unchangeable fire rate until he gets his 4th. That with the reload means he only can do %missing hp damage every 4-5 seconds, whereas kaisa can do the same every 2 seconds.

She is also mostly immobile minus her e, like vayne, but unlike vayne can go invis once its evolved (which isnt tough) and doesnt require her ult to be active. Yes, she cant fire during this time, but her attack speed is then buffed after to compensate for the lack of damage, allowing her to further proc her passive even more.

For her to have a short range, she has a lot of ways to get close to someone, something that wouldnt be a problem if she also didnt have her e.

She has everything an adc needs to work very well. Her weakness is only “dont get close” which isnt always an option. Whereas adcs, like jihn,cait, kog and mf are rather immobile (lately jhin has been a speedy boi tho, so maybe less him) have a lot of damage but cant get out of situations as easily, someone like kaisa also has comperable (or better) damage without the lack of mobility. Then you have some adcs like vayne or jinx who has rather rough early games but scale well, and while kaisa has a medicire early game, she scaled just as well without the troubles vayne/jinx have.

But what do i know. Im only silver afterall :(

Jaspers10/7/2018, 9:53:03 AM3 votes

Her problem is her AP, near all other ADCs in the game are going AD or with Varus, Rageblade then AD, she can build a Deathcap and a Zhonyas. They need to nerf her AP ratios by a lot.

Of course the 19 games played and 68% winrate champ is still not being banned. Why?

Vlada Cut10/8/2018, 7:25:27 AM2 votes

Due to stormrazor being so strong but badly designed*

Neptunia xoxo10/7/2018, 8:46:19 PM2 votes

This is what happens when you leave a champion strong like this for so many patches then give her very weak nerfs expecting a champion to randomly drop in play. Give her an actual nerf and quit making champions like these with the kits of god compared to 70% of the champion base and pretending like it's a gift from above.

PowerOfMyKarma10/7/2018, 9:40:27 AM1 votes

Yes they want RNG with uzi to win worlds and they can't with balanced Kai'sa. So guess after worlds she will be nerfed.

dubahel10/8/2018, 9:08:45 PM1 votes

LOL they already nerfed kai sa really hard to the point she's unplayable. The champ needs hard buffs Kaisa item 3070

Hügö10/7/2018, 6:51:51 PM1 votes

Then riot: Fine we nerf Kai Sa and btw huge buffs to Vayne.

mack911210/7/2018, 11:42:39 PM1 votes

She will be nerfed in coming patches

Fluffeh10/8/2018, 7:26:05 AM1 votes

49.50 is a good winrate? Darius had the exact same winrate before 8.19 and he just got multiple big buffs. Personally i wouldnt really be that against kaisa nerfs but only if the other 2 instapick carries(lucian and jhin) also receives nerfs

Z3Sleeper10/8/2018, 3:58:01 PM1 votes

"Popstar" Kai'Sa hasn't been released yet. Gotta wait til the post-skin nerfs happen my dude.

MarkedOfKane10/8/2018, 5:49:17 PM1 votes

After they release the skin and all the Kai'sa players buy it.