Therefore, let's gut the yellow trinket, the main warding tool for people that aren't support and jungle! That certainly doesn't contridict anything at all!
Seriously though, as a midlaner I feel like I have so much LESS impact on the vision game now because my trinket is garbage. At level 18 my trinket cooldown is DOUBLE what it used to be at LEVEL 9. Just......why?
LVL 5 PORO4 votesTry maining support and THEN talk to me about vision. The Sighstone changes are terrible. Riot removed green wards so people would buy pinks and people STILL dont buy them. They reduced the charges on SS and gave it a longer cd. At least before I could ward one side of the jungle and know I was safe. Not anymore. I HAVE to rely on my team, which is terrible because 99% of the time my team sucks.
Sire Hippington3 votesas a toplaner, i agree, i can no longer splitpush if i'm not premade with my jungler, as i can't provide the needed vission by my self unless i go for a sightstone... i'm all for the stealth-ward remove, but the trinket nerfs are totally uncalled for and feel horrible.
JustMyBassCannon2 votesWhat really upset me was the idea that I needed Trinket to auto-upgrade.
I took that as a personal insult, because I almost always remembered to upgrade the damn thing and use it as much as possible.
DarkDeamonDragon1 votesWhat really upset me was the idea that I needed Trinket to auto-upgrade.
I took that as a personal insult, because I almost always remembered to upgrade the damn thing and use it as much as possible.
Unfortunately, you were not the norm. I would have loved to have someone like you in my games on a consistent basis.
I was in games where, I was the only one putting down wards. I've had games when I was playing ADC with the most wards placed only using an upgraded trinket. Almost hour long games and my "full build" teammates would not have an upgraded trinket. [slayer-jinx-unamused]
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesThe same logic that gutted midlane in general, except for zed, yasou and the new midlane jungle smiteless graves yolo 420 preseason 5 warwick balance yay what the hell rito srsly.
Into The Aether1 votesI hate the vision changes.
I usually got the 2 stealth ward yellow trinket as an ADC. And whatever else other than support.
I don't like that I can't set up a ward line in the jungle on my own anymore unless I want to have zero ward presence for a corresponding amount of time after they run out.
Used to be able to start holding a quad of the jungle with 2-3 wards at level 9ish, now yellow is only going to give me one ward at a time unless I leave it dark for a while. Between this and the removal of green wards, there's not much point in the 3 ward per player limit if you aren't a support or possibly a jungle.
The farsight trinket gives more, but it feels like a win-more thing. If you're winning, you can stack 10 wards in your jungle bushes so the enemy has an uphill invade path if they get an upset win. But it doesn't work for real teamfight or objective contesting, since it's more of a tripwire than something to give you an angle on them with vision.
The debris is a little obnoxious too, but not near as bad as just being hamstrung on vision.
I don't like the "team" part of the vision thing, since in reality it just means I have way less impact doing it. It'd've already been better if others were part of it to begin with, me doing less doesn't help that. I'm unlikely to become the buddy of every random solo queue, and chat them up about warding patterns every match and how multiple wards interact to be stronger than a single one. I'm introverted, and already don't discuss anything to begin with in 99% of my games.
Considering most of my warding was with the trinket, I didn't really feel the "gold advantage" and snowballing part of this change they were talking about in the patch notes.
If team vision has been part of the seasonal change for two years now, why do we still not have "Ward Here Please" and "Enemy Ward is Here" pings in the smart ping system yet?
