That incoming Leesin buff is disgusting,

PhearBunny··40 votes·13,259 views

Its pretty clear Riot doesnt care about its game. Hellllloooooo WoW Classic.

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PhearBunny22 votes

Theyre buffing the crap out of him for worlds play reels. disgraceful. Cya Riot.

Classic WoW is way better anyways.

Anatera2 votes

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Theyre buffing the crap out of him for worlds play reels. disgraceful. Cya Riot.

Classic WoW is way better anyways.

How is it? I haven't been keeping up because I want to avoid the queues and crowds. Pretty fun?

PhearBunny3 votes

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How is it? I haven't been keeping up because I want to avoid the queues and crowds. Pretty fun?

its great, can really tell its gonna stick too.

musixxal18 votes

give a fuck about that fam.

LOOK HERE

Ekko [Changelist] Parallel Convergence (W) Mana cost lowered from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50 Stun duration increased from 1.75 to 2.25

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? this means ekko is now broken utterly broken this can't seriously be going live.

hiyares2 votes

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give a fuck about that fam.

LOOK HERE

Ekko [Changelist] Parallel Convergence (W) Mana cost lowered from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50 Stun duration increased from 1.75 to 2.25

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? this means ekko is now broken utterly broken this can't seriously be going live.

its a massive slow moving aoe stun....................... its not a damage buff at least

musixxal2 votes

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its a massive slow moving aoe stun....................... its not a damage buff at least

he already got free dmg, literally free dmg cause it's the easiest spell to land on his kit, in his E buff just last patch, or two patches ago, or something it's there. cdr buffs on his ult another patch, that's also there, maybe even this patch lol. e cooldown buffs on some other patch earlier in the season now this he's gotten so many goodies lately i can't believe it. i'ma go climb now cause it's literally freelo with the amount of time i've put on this champion. all that can stop me now...my ISP i suppose. pretty sure he was given something else too, i'll get back to you on my main tomorrow if this thread is still a thing.

hiyares1 votes

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he already got free dmg, literally free dmg cause it's the easiest spell to land on his kit, in his E buff just last patch, or two patches ago, or something it's there. cdr buffs on his ult another patch, that's also there, maybe even this patch lol. e cooldown buffs on some other patch earlier in the season now this he's gotten so many goodies lately i can't believe it. i'ma go climb now cause it's literally freelo with the amount of time i've put on this champion. all that can stop me now...my ISP i suppose. pretty sure he was given something else too, i'll get back to you on my main tomorrow if this thread is still a thing.

so for op.gg ekko is sitting at 4.65% pick rate not bad i mean thats okay with a 49.50% wr with all those buffs you are talking about. as a jungler he sits at 1.95% pick rate aaand a 50.68% wr. number wise hes honestly fine and whats wrong with buffing his dash? so many targeted skills in the game and his was held back by the buffer he had to get on to a target. i dont even main the dude hes fun he has very distinct weaknesses and very clear trades he wants to make. he literally needs to pop off a full combo abuse his passive to do an okay amount of damage to make trades. i mean its not like zed who has energy can spam skills and use his shadow to hit you 4 times in a split second. who i would like to add sits at a 8.3%pick rate with a 50.3%wr

OniichanImComing2 votes

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give a fuck about that fam.

LOOK HERE

Ekko [Changelist] Parallel Convergence (W) Mana cost lowered from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50 Stun duration increased from 1.75 to 2.25

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? this means ekko is now broken utterly broken this can't seriously be going live.

This is gonna be abused for shielding.... damn.

They should cancel the mana cost buff but keep the stun buffs because his stun is so easy to prevent

Yets42403 votes

Why should a hyper mobile assassin have an AoE HARD CC that lasts over 2 fucking seconds? That's beyond the hard CC offered by any tank ult in the entire game. On a basic ability that's also a massive fucking shield that scales off of 150% AP AND provides a disgusting amount of free execute damage without a cooldown "Passive: Ekko's basic attacks deal 3% (+ 3% per 100 AP) of the target's missing health bonus magic damage to targets below 30% of their maximum health. The damage has a minimum threshold of 15"

Someone as mobile, bursty, and disgustingly safe as Ekko doesn't need a 2.25 second AoE hard CC with as low as a 7.7 second cooldown. That's over a fucking third uptime on an AoE hard CC. On a basic fucking ability plus a massive semi-spamable shield and constant free execute damage. On a hyper mobile motherfucking assassin, who by all rights, should not have any hard CC whatsofuckingever, let alone one of the longest CCs in the entire game, and the longest duration AoE hard CC on a pittance of a cooldown for what it offers.

musixxal1 votes

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This is gonna be abused for shielding.... damn.

They should cancel the mana cost buff but keep the stun buffs because his stun is so easy to prevent

i take demolish and go top against melee's and zone them off their own turret to take free plates. maybe they try stop me like good sports, i just walk out and E away AFTER taking the plate anyway, they're stunned afterall and any dmg they did use was shielded. now they're gonna be stunned for longer, i don't even have to E away (derp). heck i might not even bother with double dorans anymore cause the W won't functionally have a cost, although can't reverse trade with folks without double dorans. or dorans, dark seal and corrupting. tank ekko is smirking away in the background btw, just remains to be seen if it's triforce or iceborn.

i mean heck isn't it already jarring enough when ekko says "step right up" and some 3000 units is cordoned off of use for the next 3 seconds? now the stun is even scarier, why iunno, enough people said they wanted it longer i guess(?) the cadence buff on his phase dive makes his 3 hit without the second Q quicker, i mean people are gonna be stunned long enough for the second Q to sweep through them now lol. iunno man, i doubt it goes out like that but that's what i said about the last buffs and they're on the live servers already and faker already carried with him before LCK ended. maybe a championship ekko skin is coming out, who knows man, very weird sequence of boosts ekko has been given though. definitely geared towards the upper echelons of his play but that doesn't mean he isn't now easier to execute on what with the sheer threat of his W alone.

but i digress, what do i know bout ekko.

Sucction1 votes

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give a fuck about that fam.

LOOK HERE

Ekko [Changelist] Parallel Convergence (W) Mana cost lowered from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50 Stun duration increased from 1.75 to 2.25

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? this means ekko is now broken utterly broken this can't seriously be going live.

Eh? People get hit by this?

musixxal1 votes

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Eh? People get hit by this?

you know i got a real good memory sucction. you best not complain about ekko being overpowered on these boards later cause i'll be here to tell you that you were sure he wasn't.

Sucction1 votes

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you know i got a real good memory sucction. you best not complain about ekko being overpowered on these boards later cause i'll be here to tell you that you were sure he wasn't.

Meta shifts can affect stuff like that, and frequently do more often than direct balance changes.

But nah I'm pre sure Ekko is fine. he's annoying but he's fine.

preternatural1 votes

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Eh? People get hit by this?

they either get hit by it or they have to flash out. you guys think you are gonna have vision of ekko all the time lol while forgetting that he has a super easy push tool in his Q. but whatever you guys want to see it on live servers first before losing your minds lol.

Ephixus14 votes

I never asked for Lee Sin buffs, I don't understand why would they buff him, only one reason is just for worlds or upcoming legendary skin on him.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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I never asked for Lee Sin buffs, I don't understand why would they buff him, only one reason is just for worlds or upcoming legendary skin on him.

Implying what you ask for balance wise means anything?

Vlada Cut13 votes

Wtf is up with 2 second stin on Ekko W? First Fiora's 2 second W stun now Ekko? Who the fuck has a fetish for 2 second stuns on balance team. Who's next? Riven's W? What the duck guys?!

hiyares3 votes

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Wtf is up woth 2 second stin on Ekko W? First Fiora's 2 second W stun now Ekko? Who the fuck has a fetish for 2 second stuns on balance team. Who's next? Riven's W? What the duck guys?!

fiora needs to actually out play to use her stun ekko is a giant telegraphed area that slowly appears on the map its not like you cant see it

Vlada Cut2 votes

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fiora needs to actually out play to use her stun ekko is a giant telegraphed area that slowly appears on the map its not like you cant see it

Outplay? Buddy her W is broken even without the Stun because It's base magic damage is too damn high through ALL stages of the game. AND IT HAS AP SCALINGS ONLY. AND SHE BUILDS AD ITEMS EXCLUSIVELY? She doesn't need to outplay anyone but just hit the damn hitbox on their laner and that is clearly not too hard nor punishing considering the fact melee champions in front of her will be slapped anyways and the range is so high she can W snipe ranged champions. Yet alone she is broken throughout all stages of the game and her early has no counterplay for how strong it is for a hyperscaling champion, no they had to buff all of her spells including passive throughout season 8 and season 9 for the last 2 years!

Oh, I did forgot to mention how broken her no CD Q is? Yet alone has broken amount of movement speed for no reason at all.

Fiora sure is a balanced champion, and we all love her how balanced she is. :3

ChiefDovahkin1 votes

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Outplay? Buddy her W is broken even without the Stun because It's base magic damage is too damn high through ALL stages of the game. AND IT HAS AP SCALINGS ONLY. AND SHE BUILDS AD ITEMS EXCLUSIVELY? She doesn't need to outplay anyone but just hit the damn hitbox on their laner and that is clearly not too hard nor punishing considering the fact melee champions in front of her will be slapped anyways and the range is so high she can W snipe ranged champions. Yet alone she is broken throughout all stages of the game and her early has no counterplay for how strong it is for a hyperscaling champion, no they had to buff all of her spells including passive throughout season 8 and season 9 for the last 2 years!

Oh, I did forgot to mention how broken her no CD Q is? Yet alone has broken amount of movement speed for no reason at all.

Fiora sure is a balanced champion, and we all love her how balanced she is. :3

Fiora is absolutely one of the unhealthiest things in the game. They just keep buffing her bc her late game is total shit since she's all single target damage and has one potential cc. Her early game has basically no counterplay unless you hard counter her and even then she's extremely safe in lane. Who else has a 3 sec dash with a ranged melee hit on it that procs a %hp passive and lifestealing? Stop making melees that can kite out other melees like damn. And what the hell is %hp true damage?! That by definition means "nothing you can build to stop it".

Vlada Cut1 votes

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Fiora is absolutely one of the unhealthiest things in the game. They just keep buffing her bc her late game is total shit since she's all single target damage and has one potential cc. Her early game has basically no counterplay unless you hard counter her and even then she's extremely safe in lane. Who else has a 3 sec dash with a ranged melee hit on it that procs a %hp passive and lifestealing? Stop making melees that can kite out other melees like damn. And what the hell is %hp true damage?! That by definition means "nothing you can build to stop it".

I was sarcastic at the last part of the post....she has the scalings of a hyperscaler but hear teamfighting sucks, she can't close the game unless she skirmishes because that's where she's at least capable of late game. Going 1 by 1 tho is just what she wants...

Sucction1 votes

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Outplay? Buddy her W is broken even without the Stun because It's base magic damage is too damn high through ALL stages of the game. AND IT HAS AP SCALINGS ONLY. AND SHE BUILDS AD ITEMS EXCLUSIVELY? She doesn't need to outplay anyone but just hit the damn hitbox on their laner and that is clearly not too hard nor punishing considering the fact melee champions in front of her will be slapped anyways and the range is so high she can W snipe ranged champions. Yet alone she is broken throughout all stages of the game and her early has no counterplay for how strong it is for a hyperscaling champion, no they had to buff all of her spells including passive throughout season 8 and season 9 for the last 2 years!

Oh, I did forgot to mention how broken her no CD Q is? Yet alone has broken amount of movement speed for no reason at all.

Fiora sure is a balanced champion, and we all love her how balanced she is. :3

Her W does 110 damage throughout the entire game. Taking 30 off it isn't gonna make her "balanced" if you think she's broken.

It's maxed last.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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Her W does 110 damage throughout the entire game. Taking 30 off it isn't gonna make her "balanced" if you think she's broken.

It's maxed last.

Fiora mains defending their broken braindead champion.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Sucction1 votes

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Fiora mains defending their broken braindead champion.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Please actually read what I've said.

Also, don't think I 'main' a champ that I've played like 3 times this year but aight

Vlada Cut1 votes

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Please actually read what I've said.

Also, don't think I 'main' a champ that I've played like 3 times this year but aight

I did and it was a waste of time to read or yet alone write that nonesense.

5050BS1 votes

Panth even in the rework his stun stayed 1s

Zyra Root is only 1.75

Malz Ult is 2.5s but he cant do ANYTHING for the same time.

Naalith4 votes

What, you don't like the fact that a character who has been in basically every game since 2012 and is super safe and is also fucking insanely broken this season even moreso than usual is getting a major buff?

Diävolo3 votes

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What, you don't like the fact that a character who has been in basically every game since 2012 and is super safe and is also fucking insanely broken this season even moreso than usual is getting a major buff?

Lee Sin wasn't that broken. He was a high skilled champion that everyone wanted to play + he's fun af

Kovorix2 votes

And what is the buff? Dragon's Rage (R) cooldown reverted from 90/75/60 t0 110/85/60?

Jennifer4202 votes

worlds without lee sin? aint happening. rito gotta do favorism.

mack91121 votes

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Deνiruchi2 votes

One of the buffs*

Base HP increased from 570.8 to 575
Base damage increased from 69.18 to 70
Dragon's Rage (R) 
    damage increased from 150/375/600 to 175/400/625
    cooldown lowered from 110/85/60 to 90/75/60

They only reverted the cooldown one.

mack91121 votes

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One of the buffs*

Base HP increased from 570.8 to 575
Base damage increased from 69.18 to 70
Dragon's Rage (R) 
    damage increased from 150/375/600 to 175/400/625
    cooldown lowered from 110/85/60 to 90/75/60

They only reverted the cooldown one.

Your honestly bitching about that ?

Deνiruchi1 votes

I'm not bitching, I'm correcting your wrong post.

mack91121 votes

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I'm not bitching, I'm correcting your wrong post.

Those aren’t real changes

Deνiruchi1 votes

What?

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

LC$

Ionian Vulpix1 votes

Thankfully I can now play as Banjo and more importantly sans in Smash, so I no longer have need of this game.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

I just logged in to tell you that FF XIV > WoW

ChiefDovahkin1 votes

Nobody asked for Lee buffs. He's blatantly overpowered in the early game and just shielded by the fact that his engage is a skill shot. Who else can 1v1 basically any jungler, dive at level 2, provide Malphite level cc, and has 2 options of escape if need be? He's just another overloaded fighter/assassin. Game is full of em now.

Harden Stepback1 votes

shameless company

MasterDClone1 votes

Honestly the buff doesn't seem too bad tbh, and this is coming from a shaco player who hates playing against lee, but overall this 25 ult damage buff looks pretty tame lol. Im just glad they are finally nerfing kai sa

The Stripy Bag1 votes

Hahaha I didn't read Lee Sin because of how it was bunched together and thought it read Lesbian buff like it's a new group in TFT. XD Who would be in that group? Neeko and who else?

14daysuspensionk1 votes

Still waiting for them to fix skillshots going through targets, especally in river.

Toxic Teeto1 votes

The buff does not matter.

NOBODY can play Lee Sin anyways xD

Literal IRL Tree1 votes

25 damage on ult UNPLAYABLE GAME I'M QUITTING!

PhearBunny1 votes

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25 damage on ult UNPLAYABLE GAME I'M QUITTING!

are u ignoring that they cut its cd in half and buffed all his base stats even though hes debatably already the best jungler in the game?

Literal IRL Tree1 votes

They reverted the CD, 5 hp, 1 ad. Wow very good boards, don't even know the changes

Literal IRL Tree1 votes

Also if you think he is the best i argue you 1 Nunu.

Y E S H U A 1 votes

No shit a company that make money’s out of viewership wants a champion that look cool to be picked in pro play so they can get views!! Oh nooo!! Man you are so smart!! NASA should hire you man!!!! But you complain about riot wanting to make more money but in the same time you complain if riot don’t hire more people for new modes support!! Hmmmmm you gotta chose ether be hippie and blame the evil riot that tries to make money or be normal and realize how a company works so you can have your new modes!! And if you lose one or two ranked games it’s not because was a lee in this game was beacuse you simple feed!! And trust me according to your Elo you are not going pro in any time soon so you are pretty much casual player who play for fun! So stop complain let riot make money out of lee and enjoy the free new modes! Jesus the kids nowdays

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