Im moving on, this game is in the toilet.

PhearBunny·May 26, 2018·71 votes·15,255 views

Reason #1- this season is just in a absolute terrible state, it doesn't even need explanation at this point, boards has been complaining about it for the entirety of the season.

Reaseon #2- Normals are unplayable. You sit through 20mins of autofill dodges, until you get autofilled and are left with the decision to play what you don't want to play, or to dodge and then relive the experience all over again.

Reason #3- Toxic premades. In the event that one of your non-autofilled games does go through, you will generally have the luxury of being grouped with a toxic premade that will play badly, and then gang up on you in an attempt to get a reportable reaction.

Reason #4- How did this last patch leave the conference table as a good idea?

Reason #5- How did the Spear of Shojin leave the conference table as a good idea?

Reason #6- How did Pykes ult leave the conference table as a good idea?

LoL is on its death bed. All they have left is LCS.

Its funny how Overwatch didn't even need to put forth work to become a better game than LoL. Riot did the work for Overwatch. and Fortnite.

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A Swarm of KoalaMay 26, 201829 votes

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Darth ZashiMay 26, 201823 votes

Reason #3- Toxic premades. In the event that one of your non-autofilled games does go through, you will generally have the luxury of being grouped with a toxic premade that will play badly, and then gang up on you in an attempt to get a reportable reaction.

This pretty much describes all of my games perfectly. The game is nearly unplayable anymore.

RamyskieMay 26, 20184 votes

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This pretty much describes all of my games perfectly. The game is nearly unplayable anymore.

Too bad the community likes it and undoubtedly supports this kind of behavior since they are more concerned about people posting names than the toxic players.

Hèntaî May 26, 20185 votes

Ive noticed that the games that are losses are full of these toxic premades(goes for both teams)

Ayanami3rdMay 26, 201813 votes

4-6 are so true and sad at the same time. I'm still unsure if Riot is

incompetent at game design
does not care because money still flows
does not care because there's already planning for a time beyond League (let's be honest, this game gets old)

TAMERELAJUIVEEMay 26, 20185 votes

Fortnite is stealing audience on twitch every day , league will lose visibility until everybody forget about it like WOW starcraft etc ...

sphinxthelion7May 26, 20189 votes

"Reason #3- Toxic premades. In the event that one of your non-autofilled games does go through, you will generally have the luxury of being grouped with a toxic premade that will play badly, and then gang up on you in an attempt to get a reportable reaction. "

And that is how after 2 years I got a 10 game chat ban and all my honor taken away, and stopped playing. I now just read the boards to remind myself why i stopped playing.

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 26, 20189 votes

Reason #1- this season is just in a absolute terrible state, it doesn't even need explanation at this point, boards has been complaining about it for the entirety of the season.

pretty sure therer was never a time they weren't.

Reaseon #2- Normals are unplayable. You sit through 20mins of autofill dodges, until you get autofilled and are left with the decision to play what you don't want to play, or to dodge and then relive the experience all over again.

I almost 100% play normal draft and aram, do i get autofilled? yes sometimes but i can handle that, if you're only capable of playing one role why the fuck are you even playing ranked. and i sure as hell don't spend 20 minutes in queue

Reason #3- Toxic premades. In the event that one of your non-autofilled games does go through, you will generally have the luxury of being grouped with a toxic premade that will play badly, and then gang up on you in an attempt to get a reportable reaction.

This is in no way worse than having only one toxic %%%% on your team.

Reason #4- How did this last patch leave the conference table as a good idea?

patch is good, it achieved it's goal. making lanes fight again instead of waiting for the jungler. Jungle itself might need some tweaking to allow farming ones own jungle to be more viable. but overall it's a good patch.

Reason #5- How did the Spear of Shojin leave the conference table as a good idea?

seems broken as shit i'll admit that, probably needs changes

Reason #6- How did Pykes ult leave the conference table as a good idea?

So when pyke does it, it's bad but when veigar or urgot do it, it's "so frickin cool"

Its funny how Overwatch didn't even need to put forth work to become a better game than LoL. Riot did the work for Overwatch.

hmm? there's so much crap in there that's just as annoying to deal with, hell they even have their own yasuo. I like both games but they suffer from the same problems any online PVP game does: Meta & random People playing together.

and Fortnite.

Current hype, enjoyable to watch (i don't really feel like playing the BR mode, i'll wait for the base defense to be free), An art style that attracts all age categories (like OW & league), fun skins (like league and OW) and it's FREE.

Fortnite has a bright future but if you think it's gonna keep going you're wrong. Look at OW, pretty sure their playerbase has dropped since release but they're still going strong, like league. You can't expect a game to stay at it's peak forever.

no to toxicMay 26, 20184 votes

Unironically comparing a support champions superioir execute with no downsides to 2 executes wich the enemy can actually do something against like using shields flashing the skillshots, not going into the short range. Like stop typing you just made yourself look stupid enough .

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 26, 20183 votes

Unironically comparing a support champions

the "support" champion. His design is literally "support". y'all are quick to call lux a troll support but cuz riot says pyke is a support it's a legit pick.

superioir execute with no downsides to 2 executes wich the enemy can actually do something against like using shields flashing the skillshots, not going into the short range.

Once urgot starts his Execute, the only one who can escape is Trynd i think unless this is a special case that doesn't allow him to ult while cc'd. and guess what, he doesn't care about shields either. And yeah, sure that 400 hp shield is gonna save your 1/3 hp adc from getting nuked for 1.7k dmg. totally. oh and it's 650 range btw, that's so low ranged that it's further than most adc's aa range.

oh and you can actually flash/dash pykes ult. or you can heal yourself before it hits to get above the cap. Thing is. It does that damage either way. If you're above the hp threshold, you take the dmg equal to the threshold .

Like stop typing you just made yourself look stupid enough .

"no to toxic" btw.

PB4UAMEMay 26, 20182 votes

You really don't understand Urgots ult man. You can Kayle ult them as they are being dragged, Taric ult, morg shield, windwall the return, braum shield it, Trynd ult, Zil ult, zonhyas as it hits you, QSS as it hits you, cleanse as it hits you, Ekko ult, someone else can Mikael's you, you can kill Urgot, revive passives counter it (GA, Anivia, Aatrox, Zac, etc) and you're forgetting the fact that literally anyone in the game can simply body block it with hardly an iota of effort, and it does basically no damage (50/100/150) unless they are below 25% hp, and then the drag completes succesfully after successfully landing the skillshot, and is entirely single target. And guess what else, you're points about healing and flashing Pyke's ult both apply to Urgot and are easier to use, plus you can also use cleanse.

Bonus points for Pyke's ult still nuking everyone in AoE for up to almost 2k true damage even if they are above the threshold, where as Urgots times out and does nothing in such cases. Let alone getting a free fucking reset to cast it again.

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 27, 20181 votes

I don't play urgot. but it's not that hard of an ability to understand, it's pretty much ezreal Q with an execute instead of onhit. But what do all those things matter?

Kayle/taric ult someone pyke is gonna ult, trynd will survive through it, zhonya's when pyke's gonna hit you, ekko ult outta there, revive after he kills you (i'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be resetting on that, if it still does that's most likely a bug).

and it does basically no damage (50/100/150) unless they are below 25% hp,

"50 / 175 / 300 (+ 50% AD)" according to the league wiki, maybe you don't understand the ability that much better than me.

And guess what else, you're points about healing and flashing Pyke's ult both apply to Urgot and are easier to use, plus you can also use cleanse.

when did i say they don't work on urgot? wether they work against urgot or not has nothing to do with pyke. Besides if you just cast it when you can double tap it, soraka ain't gonna have to get there any faster than against pyke

Bonus points for Pyke's ult still nuking everyone in AoE for up to almost 2k true damage even if they are above the threshold, where as Urgots times out and does nothing in such cases. Let alone getting a free fucking reset to cast it again.

AFAIK his ult does physical dmg, but feel free to show me where it says it does true dmg. Idk what the max ad is ppl have reached on him but 2.5k bonus hp would be converted to 175 ad, that's not gonna get you to 2k dmg.

I guess 300+50% ad dmg and 4 seconds of zoning were nothing?

This could even be phrased as, if pyke fails his execute he doesn't get shit but urgot still has 4 seconds to get you low enough.

Pika FoxMay 26, 20184 votes

Logic? And REASON?! On the NA boards? What year is it?

losdougradosMay 26, 20183 votes

Urgot and Veigar reset and do AOE damage?

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 26, 20182 votes

no, but they have other advantages that pyke doesn't have. like being a clickon or being a threat for multiple seconds.

That's not even the point tho... plenty of abilities can be seen as ridiculous.

let's not forget that urgot takes you down based on % remaining hp meaning pyke's is pretty much the assassin version as both are skill shots and executes. on a 3.5k hp target (which isn't hard, i reach this hp on singed building bruiser) urgot's ult executes at about 200 hp earlier than lategame pyke.

I'm not trying to offend anyone maining these champs, but if they get a pass so should Pyke. When urgot was released people were ecstatic about the ult, they shouldn't act outraged about pyke's.

PB4UAMEMay 26, 20182 votes

Urgot's ult would execute at 875 hp in that scenario.

Pyke's base damage is 620 + 140% of bonus AD (and remember he gets 1 AD per 14 hp too) so he needs 182 bonus AD to beat Urgot's execute on about as tanky a target as league gets. BUT WAIT! Pyke's ult resets, and does AoE damage, and even if it doesn't kill, sitll does the full true damage nuke to everyone in range, where as Urgot will do about 100 damage to a single target unless he gets the execute, on a harder to land skill shot too.

Urgot at the absolute best case scenario takes a kill who got away, and guarantees it, with sizeable outplay potential on his opponents part, and on behalf of his opponents team. Unlike Pyke ult, you can body block Urgots and make it useless. You can zill ult, Kayle ult, black shield, windwall, Braum shield, Kindred ult, Taric ult it coming or returning, then you can flash it, heal, cleanse, QSS, mikael's, or Olaf ult, Rengar W, Aatrox Q, Vi ult, Malphite ult, Ekko ult, or use any other form of CC immunity/cleanse to escape it after it has hit you. Oh, and there is also the fact that even when its pulling you in, it first pushes you out 500 range so it takes longer, and so that you have over 7 seconds from when he fires the ult until its doing the damage, and during this time you can kill Urgot (even at the last .00001 seconds) and he won't do any damage.

Pyke's ult is designed to give you true damage fueled pentakills by itself, and even if you flash out, your allies can still be hit, plus you cannot stop it by anti-cc effects, and there is much less you can do to save or protect your allies (seriously just body blocking makes Urgot ult useless, body-blocking Pyke ult just doubles the damage he deals)

People like Urgot ult because it is fair, and there are a plethora of ways every single champion bar none can counter play the ult, and even assist their allies against it. Pyke's ult has none of that and resets, plus will do more damage to almost all targets as its base damage is equivalent to Urgot's execute point against a 2,500 hp champ, nevermind its 140% bonus AD ratio and AoE damage.

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 27, 20181 votes

there's really no point in replying to me in 2 different comments with basically the same thing.

Death by GlamourMay 27, 20181 votes

Riot has nothing to fall back on when the money starts to go down though

Blizzard had the sense to diversify into hearthstone, a team fps and a moba. Not to forget the wow ingame store.

Im guessing mext year there will be a lol mobile game

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 27, 20181 votes

WoW is far past it's peak, like league is now yet people keep bringing it up. If WoW, RS, Maplestory, etc aren't considered dead then league isn't on it's way to the grave.

Hearthstone's main success probably comes from the fact it's a mobile game. Their moba is a joke. Like i enjoyed playing it i guess, the characters are fun, but it's been treated like that alot. forgot 1v9ing in communist mobaland. (not saying it's a bad game, i just think it's hit or miss depending on the map.) to me hots feels like aram.

blizzard is also 15 years older than riot. As big as a company they may be, if everyone on your company works on the same game it's still a big undertaking to start a second one. AFAIK Morello and a team are working on one.

Seer of MindMay 26, 20187 votes

Cya, won't miss ya.

VelgamMay 26, 201815 votes

week after week more people leave, I played a lot of games where people left comments like these when frustrated players announced quitting on forums, most of those games are now closed down. In game frustration is high, people are no longer having fun with the game, riot just keeps pumping out bad patch after bad patch. The rate of these posts are increasing, unknown to how many leave and say nothing, I am still on boards but I gave up on this game a long time ago.

DisembarkMay 27, 20181 votes

Not really. You see the same amount of these posts at all times in the boards, if you actually used the boards for a long time.

And this pertains to literally every change Riot makes.

Buff Assassins? “Game unplayable alwayus 1shot”

Nerf assassins? “Game unplayable, can’t kill anyone”

Tanks strong? “Game unplayable, can’t kill tanks”

Tanks weak? “Game unplayable, don’t feel tanky”.

Long games? “Game unplayable, early advantages mean nothing and don’t have time in my day”

Short games? “Too snowbally, no strategy”

Fact is that different groups of people enjoy different things, and it’s mostly the people on either side of the issue that complain on boards.

VelgamMay 27, 20181 votes

Been on boards probably longer than you, back then it was nerf this champ, champ X is too OP, it was rarely ever an entire class, now it has too many issues. I in all my time have never seen this much unified complaints Towers too weak ADCs and Jungles are to critical for out come of game Top lane and mid nearly useless Too much damage Creep block Yasuo windwall needs to be removed Bad patches(scuttle crab) Rito no liseno Too much RNG in game now fact is that there are way more complaints with way more people in agreement with them, way more posts with people proclaiming they are quitting the game, don't hide your head in the sand and say everything is ok, viewership of LC$ is going down, more and more streamers are expressing their dislike of playing the game, how much more evidence do you need?

DisembarkMay 28, 20181 votes

Ok just looked at your post history (just tryna see what you meant by “good old days of Boards”).

Lo and behold. A thread that says “damage is too high” +66 over two years ago “tanks can 1 shot ADCs and ADCs can 1-shot tanks”

“Bring back old masteries, no keystones”

“Matchmaking sucks”

You wouldn’t even notice the difference if you copy and pasted threads from 2 years ago onto boards today.

VelgamMay 30, 20181 votes

...2 years ago was when this shit started, you know when keystones came in?

You wouldn’t even notice the difference if you copy and pasted threads from 2 years ago onto boards today OH REALLY!? Dynamic queue SUCKS too many DC on east coast server too many trolls go trough archived and say this nonsense again.

SutomuDrgnMay 26, 20187 votes

after so many dumbshit riot is making even in 2018 so fai whether it be jungle, items, or champions i dont blame u league is at this point purely idiotic and cancerous

BLACK REALM GODMay 26, 20187 votes

i dont understand this trend of posting "im quiting league" posts. just go. no one is going to feel sorry that you left or regret that you're gone. if you have a point to make then make it without whining about it.

some of us are excited about the new content.

Pika FoxMay 26, 20186 votes

See you next week.

SlythionMay 26, 20184 votes

Like, I'm not having fun with the game either but these are pretty bad reasons to state publicly as facts lol

PaíntchipMay 26, 20185 votes

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Like, I'm not having fun with the game either but these are pretty bad reasons to state publicly as facts lol

Actually #3 is a fact. I fucking hate getting stuck with or against premades. It ruins the match for me as soon as I realize there is a premade on my team. For example last match had a 2man who started calling the adc a %%%% in champ select because he didn’t ban anyone.

PS. Lol, you don’t edit “fucking” but you shit your pants and edit “c u n t”?

StupaflyMay 26, 20183 votes

A solo player can just as easily ruin a game as a premade.

Ahri Body PillowMay 26, 20184 votes

Overwatch definitely is not a better game than League of Legends, lol.

BlåbæretMay 26, 20183 votes

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Overwatch definitely is not a better game than League of Legends, lol.

They're both shit.

HonestJohnTheConMay 26, 20182 votes

I guess I just like bad games then

egOrhythmMay 27, 20181 votes

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They're both shit.

Yehp. But OW is not because of gameplay. It's because the lead designer Kaplan or whatever is a wannabe tyrant banning people for shit they do outside the game. I think I've grown past insulting men about their penis size but this dude must have a dick the size of my fingernail.

RysophageMay 26, 20183 votes

just play battlerite :D matches are 5-10 minutes, no rng, pay to win, yasuo, riven mains, garbage servers, modes getting cancelled (LOLOLOL) or any of that nonsense :D Also no one gets banned from just being frustated when the game does everything it possibly can to piss you off :D

veigarbage canMay 26, 20182 votes

{quoted}

just play battlerite :D matches are 5-10 minutes, no rng, pay to win, yasuo, riven mains, garbage servers, modes getting cancelled (LOLOLOL) or any of that nonsense :D Also no one gets banned from just being frustated when the game does everything it possibly can to piss you off :D

just croak mains

Andrey0345May 26, 20189 votes

pay to win

AjenLarodMay 26, 20181 votes

You cant spend 200 games to reach the BE to buy the most expensive, and possible the most broken heroes, you pay riot.

Andrey0345May 26, 20182 votes

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You cant spend 200 games to reach the BE to buy the most expensive, and possible the most broken heroes, you pay riot.

Price has absolutely nothing to do with their strength, only with the date of their release. And most champions are relatively balanced, but not only that but meta is constantly shifting and champions that are a bit stronger than others, become weaker to get replaced with others. You really can't call this p2w in any possible way as getting champions isn't as hard as you say, 1-2 level ups is basically a new champ, apart from the ones you can get from regular chests.

AjenLarodMay 27, 20181 votes

wait? you get 3k BE each level? I'm going to send a report to riot.

How did you get so much BE? did you pay for a boost? well, p2w practices over there.

Madsin25May 27, 20181 votes

Actually the price does have to do with their strength.

It's not coincidence that 6/10 of the top 10 champs right now are the newest releases.(5 if you don't count irelias rework.)

DrCyanideMay 27, 20181 votes

"right now"?

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

MonkeyKing XinZhao Zoe Quinn Udyr Tryndamere AurelionSol Leblanc Nami Graves

That's 1 champion released this year in the top 10. 2 new kits if you count Irelia (no credit for LB, that's her old kit brought back).

Andrey0345May 27, 20181 votes

{quoted}

Actually the price does have to do with their strength.

It's not coincidence that 6/10 of the top 10 champs right now are the newest releases.(5 if you don't count irelias rework.)

No it doesn't. Riot just creates overpowered champions with new mobility, but because they are new, they cost 6300 BE. All the oldest champions cost 4800 and less, depending on how old they are.

Squeaky DreemurrMay 27, 20181 votes

a second ?

JarI BaIgruufMay 26, 20183 votes

On it's death bed? People will be saying that years from now.

losdougradosMay 26, 20185 votes

Optimism is healthy, delusion is not

DrCyanideMay 26, 20187 votes

You can find posts saying League is dying dating back 5 or 6 years at this point.

Reason #1 is used almost verbatim in those posts. Reason #2 was "that's how the game is" until the New Champ Select came out in 2016. Was the game on it's death bed before 2016? Reason #3 hasn't changed (premades are no more or less toxic than they have been in years past) Reason #4 has been said just as often as there have been patches. Plants anyone? Reason #5 could be replaced with "Leviathan", "Feral Flare", "Devourer", or one of several other items Reason #6 has been said for years with new champion abilities.

In short, it's delusional to think that these 6 reasons alone make a case for the game being on it's death bed. You can argue that as these things continue Riot loses more players, but that's still a process that happens over time, which again means people will be saying this for years to come.

ShablagooMay 26, 20183 votes

Bye

NaymlissMay 26, 20182 votes

Reason #3- Toxic premades. In the event that one of your non-autofilled games does go through, you will generally have the luxury of being grouped with a toxic premade that will play badly, and then gang up on you in an attempt to get a reportable reaction.

Don't go to CSGO then. Not only do toxic premades ruin the gameplay experience, they can vote to kick you from it entirely.