What's the deal with Sivir?

nachocheeseeeee··9 votes·1,299 views

I feel like out of all ADCs she is the least one I see in my games.

13 Comments

Sire Hippington7 votes

well, sivir has two niches:

  • Massive waveclear
  • Aoe speedboost

The former can be accomplished by about every single adc thx to item 3087 item 3085 , the later is hard to use outside of higherlevels of coordinated play, so generally not really great in soloQ.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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well, sivir has two niches:

  • Massive waveclear
  • Aoe speedboost

The former can be accomplished by about every single adc thx to item 3087 item 3085 , the later is hard to use outside of higherlevels of coordinated play, so generally not really great in soloQ.

AoE crits too, although Jinx kinda has that as well.

Kaioko5 votes

She's a team reliant ADC who functions best when everyone has access to voice. Unless you only play 5 vs 5; you won't see her often.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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She's a team reliant ADC who functions best when everyone has access to voice. Unless you only play 5 vs 5; you won't see her often.

Yes, but she would be much stronger if people knew played soloQ using the "soloQ sivir" playstyle.

Splitpush a lane. Get essence reaver so you never run oom and run 10% scaling cdr so you get 40% cdr. The second all 5 enemies show on the other side of the map, use your ult to run your own minion wave down the lane super quickly and take the tower. Now repeat in another lane.

It's really hard for the enemy team to react to if they are uncoordinated. If both teams are coordinated, then just play normal lcs style sivir. If they are but you aren't, you've lost anyway and sivir wasn't the reason why.

Umbral Regent4 votes

Well, I think the biggest reason for that (and, mind, this is only an assumption and opinion, so, take it with a grain of salt), she's an auto-attack heavy, crit-reliant ADC who primarily specializes in taking leads in teamfights and overrunning the enemy team - though, her early game is somewhat weak-ish.

But, she is actually pretty strong in the right hands either way, so I'm about as confused as you.

EDIT: Going to do a bit more of a thorough pros/cons kinda listing for Sivir

Pros:

  • Strong late game team-fight influence
  • Strong clean-up ability
  • Good waveclear
  • Good skill curve/ceiling (try bouncing your Ricochet off of a Turret to kill a low-health enemy)
  • Relatively good mana-efficiency
  • Good dueling potential
  • Benefits strongly from crit

Cons:

  • Weak early game
  • Reliance on Controller/Disruptor Supports
  • High mana costs
  • Last-hitting is slightly more difficult early-on thanks to Ricochet
  • Very, very easy to kill early on
  • Only reliable personal defense is Spell Shield, which has a moderately long CD
  • Ult is not practical outside of group movement or teamfight overrunning
  • Auto-attack reliance makes her somewhat less safe than other ADC options
Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Well, I think the biggest reason for that (and, mind, this is only an assumption and opinion, so, take it with a grain of salt), she's an auto-attack heavy, crit-reliant ADC who primarily specializes in taking leads in teamfights and overrunning the enemy team - though, her early game is somewhat weak-ish.

But, she is actually pretty strong in the right hands either way, so I'm about as confused as you.

EDIT: Going to do a bit more of a thorough pros/cons kinda listing for Sivir

Pros:

  • Strong late game team-fight influence
  • Strong clean-up ability
  • Good waveclear
  • Good skill curve/ceiling (try bouncing your Ricochet off of a Turret to kill a low-health enemy)
  • Relatively good mana-efficiency
  • Good dueling potential
  • Benefits strongly from crit

Cons:

  • Weak early game
  • Reliance on Controller/Disruptor Supports
  • High mana costs
  • Last-hitting is slightly more difficult early-on thanks to Ricochet
  • Very, very easy to kill early on
  • Only reliable personal defense is Spell Shield, which has a moderately long CD
  • Ult is not practical outside of group movement or teamfight overrunning
  • Auto-attack reliance makes her somewhat less safe than other ADC options

E max solves a lot of her early game weaknesses. It doesn't make her strong - well, it makes her weaker in damage, but it makes her stronger in survivability.

Divewing4 votes

As it turns out a team wide speed boost is pretty strong in comp Ergo, she was played professionally but is not named Lee Sin, so she inevitably got her knees broken in

Salron3 votes

She is by far the most boring adc to play

SteelMankind1 votes

Her last direct change was a huge nerf

Friendly Ram1 votes

huh i'd say adc quinn is the least seen at the bot lane. On second thought i've seen sivir less than urgod.

hhaavviikk1 votes

I feel like too much power is put into her ult

Jar Jar binks l

She is trash

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