Okay... since when was Volibear being too strong in jungle?

darkdill··5 votes·1,059 views
6/14 PBE Update

I haven't played jungle Volibear in a while, but he's suddenly OP how?

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KVbqbFsC8e5 votes

One of those champions who has been strong forever without necessarily being OP, but nobody ever complained about.

Irelia Bot3 votes

Actually a lot of people have.

They just were getting down voted by people who did not want to admit it or too blind to see it. He is not the flashy annoying too strong. He is the too effective behind the curtains kind of too strong.

Rebel Phoenix174 votes

He's been a dark horse for a pretty long time now, I remember seeing him pop up early S6.

darkdill1 votes

The thing is that his ganks are predictable and usually require him to Flash onto a prepared enemy to catch them. His melee-only range with no true gap-closers (haste effects don't count) limits his options for ganks.

Anybody who knows how to ward properly, not overextend, and watch out for timing attacks can avoid a Volibear gank pretty easily.

Lady Hammerlock2 votes

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The thing is that his ganks are predictable and usually require him to Flash onto a prepared enemy to catch them. His melee-only range with no true gap-closers (haste effects don't count) limits his options for ganks.

Anybody who knows how to ward properly, not overextend, and watch out for timing attacks can avoid a Volibear gank pretty easily.

1.fast clears 2.builds fairly tank but melts people pretty much sums up the meta right now

EMeta1 votes

And yet even in platinum & diamond he has a 54% win rate.

Yeah, I'm one S away from mastery 7 with him. This is going to hurt me. But he's not actually that easy to play around for most champs, so I think this is warranted.

Rebel Phoenix171 votes

His gank potential is not the reason he has been receiving picks, he has an insanely fast clear and increases his damage for building tank. His mid game is really strong and he scales well into late, especially on a team that has another form of initiation/speed buffing. Plus given the current item layout, he gets massive movement speed from shit like swiftys and dead mans, even a potential righteous glory for added regen benefits.

ThatHaleState3 votes

Youve been under a rock havent you haha, he has been the highest win rate jung tipping at 56% for closing in on 2 full months now. Hes above average against everything, and beyond godlike into the right comp.

TehNACHO1 votes

Statistics. He's #1 in the Jungle in terms of overall performance rating and win rate, in general a sign of a champ being a pretty major overperformer.

darkdill1 votes

What would cause that, though? Favorable meta?

My eeeeel2 votes

Other champions that counters him (mobile champs like kindred, nid, elise, lee sin) getting nerfed Also healing reductions removal from fizz, mf.... Also buff to his w.

EMeta2 votes

A lot of it has been the toning down of tier 1 junglers, combined with a slightly less mobile meta. Luc, Ekko, Zed, and Fizz were pretty much impossible for him to deal with, but have now been nerfed. Voli was hurt by the swifty nerf, but not so much as you'd think since adcs don't get it now at all.

Tanky itemization is still really good right now, & Volibear gets to buy it and still do crazy damage. The incoming nerfs look to give him a weakness--a fairly slow first two clears. As far as tanky junglers go, his level 3-5 ganks are pretty good, but if these go through his enemies will have another half level on him.

Salron1 votes

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What would cause that, though? Favorable meta?

Being overtuned

Edyr4201 votes

since cinderhulk release. he is one of the most hidden op champ.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

a lot of champs have been nerfed due to powercreep. especially junglers. and he hasn't been touched for a cpl seasons. things changed and volibear didn't its about time he changes as well

APrinnyDood1 votes

He's been in the top winrates for junglers for the better part of this season. He's pretty freaking nuts. Other junglers get nerfed, tank items get better, and Volibear goes off the rails.

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