tanks need to be. umm. TANKIER.

MunchCrunchLunch·Jul 18, 2016·4 votes·582 views

Can I build full tank and not die in 2-3 seconds late game poooooooooooleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase riot. too much damage in the game.

reduce all base damage by 25% or change the way defensive stat works.

18 Comments

I QJul 18, 20163 votes

You haven't built full tank in your past 20 games, all of them you build BC

MunchCrunchLunchJul 18, 20161 votes

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You haven't built full tank in your past 20 games, all of them you build BC

so ONE item that gives me 300 health and 250 armor and 200 MR isn't TANKY for you?

I QJul 18, 20163 votes

It isn't full tank if you build some damage.

I Go Pew Pew PewJul 18, 20162 votes

What item gives you 300HP, 250 armor, and 200 MR? I need to get me some of that item.

TequilaZombieJul 18, 20161 votes

I could even ignore the HP on that. Send me those sweet resistences. I'm going for a full Armor Rammus melee carry!

Darth Pixy MisaJul 18, 20161 votes

I agree lets change the damage reduction formula to this:

resist / 60 + resist instead of resist / 100 + resist (Resist is your Mr or armor value)

This way if you have 100 armor

100 / 60 + 100 = damage is reduced by 62.5% instead of 50%

five oh tree Jul 18, 20161 votes

No, that would be stupid and it would go back to the meta of 4 tanks 1 carry. Everyone late game, if being pounded on by a team, should die in 5 seconds or less. that's how it HAS to be for tanks to not be overtuned. stop crying for this bullshit.

ParoeJul 18, 20161 votes

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No, that would be stupid and it would go back to the meta of 4 tanks 1 carry. Everyone late game, if being pounded on by a team, should die in 5 seconds or less. that's how it HAS to be for tanks to not be overtuned. stop crying for this bullshit.

Why not lower armor and introduce crit resistance as a standard stat for armor? 15% per item, makes armor items actually useful against crit.

VladTheMageJul 18, 20161 votes

You clearly haven't touched other MOBA's. In Dota for example, full tank is 2.5k health where some champs do around 500-600 a second.

ParoeJul 18, 20161 votes

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You clearly haven't touched other MOBA's. In Dota for example, full tank is 2.5k health where some champs do around 500-600 a second.

thing about dota is that you dont get deleted because armor is actually VERY potent in dota 2. even in full build vs a phantom lancer or a phantom assassin you sitll dont get blown up. you cant escape, but you dont get blown up.

VladTheMageJul 18, 20161 votes

You do if you are behind.

ParoeJul 18, 20162 votes

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You do if you are behind.

thats true in every game. you cant use it as justifcation because "when behind" implies youre losing - which means the enemy has an advantage.

BloodyTomponJul 18, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure tanks have more multiplicative stats this season.

item 3143 item 3047 item 3110

Don't their reduction stats do more this season than last?

MunchCrunchLunchJul 18, 20162 votes

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I'm pretty sure tanks have more multiplicative stats this season.

Don't their reduction stats do more this season than last?

oh cmon a fucking 2/9 jinx did 4k damage to me with 4 items in 4 seconds while the freakin the fed ass mage did 600. and i had more armor then mr and those items u had above

BloodyTomponJul 18, 20161 votes

Oh, I didn't list them for the armour, I listed them for the non-armour damage reduction they provide. 12% less on autos from Tabi, 10% less on crits, 20% less attack speed. Those all stack multiplicatively with armour to reduce aa damage more than armour and HP alone.

HoridasJul 18, 20161 votes

if someones dealing damage, i'd say get thornmail and frozen heart. ADCs are meant to counter tanks with the way they build. CC them down or get an assassin.

Subject 5Jul 18, 20161 votes

There are pretty much three tiers in an extreme general view:

God tier: AD - Items are undeniably better than any item that doesn't offer AD/AD related stats. You will likely ALWAYS have more than 30% CDR 2nd Tier: AP - Items are undeniably worse than AD items but still offer the stats required to give AP mages purpose. You will likely ALWAYS have more than 30% CDR Shit tier: Tanks - Items are constantly abused by other roles, therefore- forced into having just overall shit items. CDR . . . well, tough fucking luck you POS- peel for your adc.

I Go Pew Pew PewJul 18, 20161 votes

Which game are you talking about again?