No Seriously Tryndamere Ultimate is Unfair
Match: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1855599190/48728987?tab=stats
Now before you bite my head off please allow me to start off by saying I am not writing this in quick response after a terrible loss to a
in lane or during any stage of the game. In this game I actually won and the
did pretty horrible but thats the problem, he did horrible and yet he still had as much pressure on the map as one of the strongest threats on the enemy team. Yea you look at the match history and we are down as much as 4.6k gold @ 31 minutes, but thats not off kills, thats off relentless split push and at one point one of our members afked for around 15 minutes+ (
). Nonetheless the other members were able to cause chaos and set an environment where this guy was able to get to towers semi-unattended, and without much of our CC there in
, dealing with him and preventing a Kamikaze to a turret is near impossible due to his ultimate. We were down a man and needed answers to stop the bleeding, that answer came when
reconnected, but even after
still crashed into tower after tower then inhib after inhib.
The problem is that unlike any other split push type champion (
,
,
,
etc.) ; this champ for solely no other reason than his absurd ultimate is allowed to be a relentless threat throughout the entire game. All of these other splitpush champs can be monsters late game, are insane duelists and have very potent ultimate's. But what makes
an outlier is that his ultimate allows him to cheat death while being able deal absurd amounts of damage. The result is the demise of a very low enemy team, due to
being able to clean up really easy without the presence of abundant and dedicated hard CC; or in this case as it's relevant to this post and this game, being able to take towers regardless of his score because he can just build full damage due to his absurd ultimate.
Seriously think about it logically, you encounter a
who is [0/7/1] 20 minutes into the game with only 100 cs. Do you think it possible and fair for her to just be able to take two top towers? Of course if objectives are left unattended or no moves on the map continue for long enough such champs can ramp up and run rampant. However would it still be fair for said champ to have an ultimate that can just ignore your attempts at stopping them (literately just dying to take the tower at that point), with no defensive items and only an ultimate to keep them alive long enough to be a martyr for an objective? Would it be fair for said champ to end the game [0/23/4] and in the course of that time take 3 separate inhibitors twice each using the same method?
Sure some better champ picks and perhaps more concentrated grouping may have alleviated the issue but a
was on that team as well and we all know what that champ loves to do all day. You guess it, split push. At a certain point you cant just ignore them, especially if your push just isnt as strong even as 5 much less 4 for a fair part of the game (which is absurd considering the score of the Trynd). The only reason we won this game was because we could group even as 3 or 4 and win against them in their unit of 3 or 4. But with two champs hell bent on split pushing, even baron and 5th drag were hard to utilize due to the fact
could just kamikaze any inhib tower at any time. Yes I stayed at base duty, to try and mitigate this but look how long the game took to close out. The point is a champs mechanics shouldn't be so potent that it allows players to forcibly take very important objectives at will, with no skill but mere force of will.
I seriously feel like no matter what you do, or how behind this champ is you're not allowed to leave this champ in a lane on his own, only due to his ultimate and usual build path. That players who play this champ are allowed and know they can abuse the nature of this champ and force constant pressure no matter how they play individually. Thats ridiculous I know there are fans and even mains of this champ/play style. Not everyone will agree I may be even horribly downvoted with my Elo somehow coming into question. None of that really matters though because of all champs that currently exist in this game, this champs uncanny ability to do what he does is unrivaled. It's a broken mechanic and it's tiresome it's overlooked. This isn't a tank we're talking about (
) this is a full on bruiser that can delete squishies and melt tanks, why does he even need this ultimate? He has a gap closer that can jump through terrain, a slow and a self heal along with a passive that makes his crits so dangerous. He's already loaded for splitpush and is probably the best at it, even for escaping. Why should he be allowed to effectively Zhonyas while moving and do tons of damage? It's Scion passive on crack and its needs to be changed.
I know absolute balance cannot be truly attained in the game, however I do feel that the game should try it's best to be balanced. When I say balance please do realize I mean not just how powerful champs are but the risks/rewards and player performance and how that has an impact overall. Anything can change a game, throws happen, but this shouldnt be allowed to happen, it's honestly an outlier with a direct cause. A single ability should not grant a player pseudo-immunity once they hit 6 to take any objective they please. Thank you for reading if you did read this far.
TL: DR- Trynd has a really unfair Ultimate that allows him to do whatever he pleases in many situations, even if he is doing abysmal. It should be changed so that it doesnt allow players to just press R and feel free to take anything they want despite their performance, whether that be a single players life or an objective.
or
,
you can beat early so they have no relevance. A
you can even ignore, it takes him forever to take objectives. A
so I make this sound easier said than done, his early game is as bs as Nasus' late game). Then while he's pushing the lane so slowly to get stacks help your team won the 4v5. You can do this with Tryndamere too, but the problem is that if you leave for a second he'll be at your towers, slowly or quickly chunking them.

if i'm doing well lol.
tees the splitpush victory. With any of the other champions that are good at splitpushing
, put it in range of the turret, and take it down? also, if tryn uses his ult to break the tower or damage it, anyone with teleport can delete him for free gold if they can catch up to him
's Rocket Grab, or
's Requiem, or
,
, and even
's ults didn't get changed even when their kits got MAJOR overhauls. Think about it.