Can you Junglers Stop Ignoring Top Lane?

Troll for Trump·1/16/2018, 8:16:27 PM·2 votes·1,035 views

When I'm Darius vs things like Vayne Quinn Teemo Pantheon Kled or tanks, and being pushed in and harassed, you should probably gank, before the enemy jgler comes to kill me or I fall even more behind. I don't even need to be aggressive, diving is now a very common thing in top lane. If I weren't playing Darius, I'm sure jgler would be much more aggressive with their dives. Because after that, I will be basically unable to do anything in top lane, and likely the rest of the game, so don't complain later about "omg wtf useless top lane."

Oh, and if you tell me to roam my turret's going to drop to half HP while I'm gone, so it's probably a bad idea

Juggernauts have expensive build paths, and still fall off late; they need a large amount of gold early in order to even be remotely relevant as the game progresses.

So please stop telling me to "just play safe" "just farm," or, god forbid (the worst one of all) "rush tank items." It doesn't work.

Tanks outpoke and outrange me, whittling me down, as well as often being capable of easily setting up free ganks and kills with their jungler. The "ranged" champs do the same thing.

I can't do jack. If I use my abilities, I'll push the wave and create a window for them to all-in.

If the lane is at the turret top, gank it, the champs in top are some of the easiest ones to gank in the game. Stop trying to force things bot all the time.

The main points are (and these are basically the main gripes of top lane as a whole):

  1. The poke and whittle playstyle very common in top lane is not fun 1.1 Ranged champs and melee champs need some better way to have healthier interaction 1.2 Tanks synergize too well with a poke playstyle that causes them to do too much damage. Tanks have always had the same playstyle, but they were seldom as good in laning phase as they are now.
  2. Bruisers and juggernauts, especially ones that rely on dominating early game still need buffs so they can actually snowball. This is related to many of the other points.
  3. Games/lanes are snowbally
  4. Jgler has too much impact top lane
  5. Bruiser itemization could be made cheaper to help prevent them from being so feast/famine. Or ADCs can have more expensive itemization. Put the itemization for classes on more similar levels (probably better to increase overall gold prices as it slows down game pacing)
  6. Turrets are too squishy
  7. Top laners don't have enough influence on the rest of the map for most of the game unless they have inbuilt tools like Shen and Kled. Tp is unreliable because of how delayed it is, and because using it to tp to anywhere other than your own turret is a death sentence.

12 Comments

H1 H0w are Ya1/16/2018, 8:21:20 PM5 votes

Top laners dont have enough influence on the rest of the map for most of the game

This is why Top gets ganked the least

PhantomGG1/16/2018, 9:04:53 PM4 votes

Let's see....list of things I get from ganking top

1-A spoiled brat who will be given a kill but will die immediately after I leave his lane 2-A chance for Rift herald that he will attempt to steal, to then use it incorrectly and have it die instantly 3-to chip the tower, for immediately after I kill his top laner, mid or jungle will come to save the tower

List of things I get from ganking bot

1-Two teamates who are now ahead 2-First blood tower for bot lane towers are literally easier to kill 3-a drake 4-the ability to get bot to siege onto mid and get a second tower

ooo...this is a hard one

Alex h87211/17/2018, 7:55:13 PM2 votes

I love ganking toplane (especially as Warwick ), b/c its a long lane so if the enemy laner pushes past river they have a long retreat to make (unlike midlane) and also because 2v1 (ganking top/mid) > 3v2.

L Psy Kongroo1/16/2018, 9:07:05 PM1 votes

Top lane doesn't matter.

Sucks to hear, but it's the truth right now. Just accept the fact that you're a glorified meat shield for the ADC and move on with your day.

TiltoverEnforcer1/16/2018, 9:12:55 PM1 votes

What's top lane?

5050BS4/17/2018, 2:28:19 PM1 votes

In this Meta top lane is teh farthest away from where the Jungler wants to be (bot lane)

Azeranth1/16/2018, 8:29:29 PM1 votes

Too gets ignored because botlane economy right now makes even the slightest lead there snowball out of control. If you want more love up top, ADC zeal items need a boost in cost.

Nørse1/16/2018, 8:59:04 PM1 votes

Generally, unless theres a hyper tank up there like Orn or Cho, I tend to ignore top lane unless it's a free gank. Entirely for the reasons stated, bot lane holds the fate of the game in their hands 90% of the time. Getting them snowballing is far more important than getting a Darius out of a deficit. The Darius isn't going to contribute much to a win, as it currently stands.