Complaints about Current Bot Lane Meta

Troll for Trump·6/19/2018, 1:54:10 AM·44 votes·14,626 views

There's too much diversity in bot lane Riot. This meta, full of diversity is boring. We need marksmen to monopolize bot lane again. That will surely create a fun meta that hasn't always been present for the past 3 or so seasons.

Nah man, diversity is bad, how dare there be experimenting.

For the first time in many years, you don't know what to expect in matches. Games aren't always just carbon copies of one another and super stale. Why are people complaining about diversity?

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Elohaven6/19/2018, 11:12:50 AM14 votes

Your post is being ignorant of the situation though.

Remember when toplaners were irrelevant because they couldn't carry games and tanks dominated. Assassins also felt like they were never able to get through shields either. They felt like there was so much CC as well that they'd get fucked over. They complained there were ADCs in top and mid despite them having a 45% winrate in those roles and being detrimental for the game. (Vayne top is a low elo meme, Jhin mid is garbage, and Lucian mid is because Riot always overbuffs him, while Ezreal is an abuse case every single season in all lanes)

They nerfed ADCs and supports while buffing toplaners and assassins because of all the complaints of how much their classes were unviable. Now the tables are turned. Over 80% of the ADC roster is useless and supports with shields or heals are garbage because they can't engage, disengage, do burst/damage, or keep their team alive. Supports poking/engaging are now the sole answer. Not the shield/healing/protective part of their kits.

For the first time in many years, you don't know what to expect in matches. Games aren't always just carbon copies of one another and super stale.

You're saying that about League - a game designed to literally be a copy of the same map, always have meta champions every year, where you do the same thing every time. Only difference is the damage, fun, and ways you can now play it. Before you could either scale, stomp early, or macroplay your way through the game. Now it's damage over damage.

People aren't complaining about diversity. They're complaining about their entire class getting fucked over.

koshkyra6/19/2018, 1:56:46 AM10 votes

This should be in memes & games

JackMcSnipeyz6/19/2018, 11:03:57 AM8 votes

I bet you'd love diversity in the toplane at the cost of bruisers like darius right?

Śhunpo6/19/2018, 6:09:13 AM8 votes

This is just bot lane mains showing us that they cannot last even 1 patch without their ADCs and supports being completely broken. Suck it up ADC and support mains you're going to have to deal with the garbage Riot has thrown at us for years.

GripaAviara6/19/2018, 8:09:56 AM7 votes

Diversity is welcomed, but gutting ADCs so hard is dumb. I get they needed their dmg reduced, no problem with that, but the fact you still get deleted by 70% of the champs and now you have less damage than a tank for first 25 min is just plain dumb

This is where the complain is. ADCs were little viable on other lanes except for some cheese picks (not talking about Lucian or other "adcs" that are still very viable now). Now they aren't very viable bot too anymore. This is not ok.

maerordecaelo6/19/2018, 2:23:57 PM6 votes

No one is complaining about diversity. What we complain about is an entire class is fucked up that can't even be played as their primary role. While all of the other subclasses have their different kind of playing styles and utility marskmen only have their potential of mdps and with the recent patches all you can ever see is ARAM-like picks spamming skills to each other in bot lane.

Krytoric6/19/2018, 9:15:30 AM5 votes

Nah diversity is fine, but if you're going to make EVERYTHING viable in bot, except like 80% of the ADCs, then yeah its lame as fuck.

Cyrosi6/19/2018, 9:01:26 PM5 votes

I love the diversity, because I get to see new stuff as a support. But I'm also not an ADC main. The problem currently is that the meta is great, for everyone that isn't an ADC. If ADCs aren't viable in bot, then there's no other place most of them are viable. How many ADCs can go into other lanes? Vayne Quinn anyone else? I can't see an ADC doing well in mid barring extreme circumstances, and most certainly aren't going to go top.

Wacky96/19/2018, 6:38:31 PM5 votes

Except Marksmen (with a few exceptions Ezreal Kindred ) always play bot lane. If marksmen can't play bot lane, anyone who mains marksmen is useless. The whole point of marksmen is that they monopolize bot lane. A little variety isn't bad, but being unable to play marksmen in bot lane without feeding and being useless, neuters marksmen as a class entirely. If marksmen can't survive bot lane, they can't survive in the game as a whole.

Omituinen6/20/2018, 5:25:59 AM3 votes

Toplane is currently bruiser vs. bruiser almost every game, but I don't see you complaining about that.

Come on man, be consistent. You love diversity? Appeal to Riot to bring back tank toplaners and ranged toplaners then! Bring back some real variety to toplane, instead of the stale bruiser-fest it currently is nearly every game!

Or is "diversity" only good when it means "there's less adcs in the game because I don't like them" and doesn't apply to your favourite bruiser picks?

Attticus Finch6/19/2018, 9:24:33 PM2 votes

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For the first time in many years, you don't know what to expect in matches.

Lucian has a fucking 31% play rate and a 54% win rate. Anyone who "doesn't know what to expect" is either trash or doesn't pay attention to statistics.

I know EXACTLY what to expect in every match: on-hit marksman utterly dominating the bot lane. Diversity wasn't increased, it was lowered to about 5 champions being viable.

Arcane Blue Boi6/19/2018, 10:23:36 PM2 votes

Top mid and jungle meta changes every year: i sleep

Botlane meta changes once in 6 years: real shit

ThıghConnoısseur6/20/2018, 4:39:53 AM2 votes

Dude this meta is the best fucking thing in forever I can finally go scarner adc without being flamed

GodlyBane6/20/2018, 4:03:38 AM1 votes

they wanted more diversity im glad they managed to pull it off finally no more 650 ranged 800 crit damage 200 magic damage / AoE autos anymore!

PowerSlave9936/19/2018, 11:01:24 AM1 votes

Mordekaiser Nautilus = cancer

Draven Freelo6/19/2018, 5:30:39 PM1 votes

ITS REALLY FUCKIN AMAZING TO GO AGAINST VLADIMIR AND MALZAHAR BOT LANE IN THIS SHITTYYY META SO AMAZINGGGG THIS GAME WILL MAKE IT FAR WITH CURRENT META HELL YEAHHHHHHHHHH SAME AS GOING AGAINST XERATH AND ZYRA BOT HMMMM JUICEE PICKS FOR AGAINST ADC WHO IS PLAYING THIS GAME PROPERLY BUT RIOT WONT DO FUCKING SWHIT AGAINST THAT STUPISD SDLČGNSDČG,.DM

Pika Fox6/19/2018, 5:07:37 PM1 votes

People complain about a lack of diversity until you get it, then its complaints about everything being too unstable and no cohesive guidelines to follow. People like their consistency.

Saibbo6/19/2018, 5:19:26 PM1 votes

you don't know what to expect in matches.

oh i already know what expects me in every game.. flames,disappointments,rage and depression

Nyarlathοtep6/19/2018, 11:56:31 AM

diversity is bad

Its not that its bad. It's just unstable.

Now here's my thought. One game you might have a pick that totally stomps the enemy. The other one, you have the exact reverse. Also, you have trouble foreseeing your enemy picks, and thus taking the appropriate measures. Also i digress, games are still the same shit. One side stomps the other.