No one likes Lee Sin, but stop spreading lies seriously.

GULAG 4 U·5/5/2017, 7:53:19 PM·26 votes·1,320 views

I don't like Lee Sin. You probably don't too. But stop spreading lies. "Lee Sin doesn't fall off".

http://www.op.gg/champion/leesin/statistics/jungle

This is falling off. Maybe not enough, but still falling off.

32 Comments

Slythion5/5/2017, 7:54:50 PM11 votes

on the contrary, at least 45.1% of the entire league community likes Lee Sin (or why would they play him?) :^)

welcome to the boards, where lies are spread to support their biased mob mentalities

In the meantime though, can we at least establish the fact that the only thing wrong with Lee is how popular he is? Dude only has a 53.25% win rate in the early game as a major early-game jungler and drops down to a whopping 46.71% win rate in the late game. That's not only 1. A significant dropoff but 2. also pretty decent yet not op winrate stats

He's popular. People are sick of seeing him (myself included), but he's not op

archerno15/5/2017, 8:04:23 PM2 votes

I love Lee Sin. Wish i didnt feed so much with him tho...

Wheatloaf5/5/2017, 10:08:08 PM2 votes

Lee sin is broken, make no mistake about it... in competitive, and probably around Diamond-Challenger. Which does mean he needs some work, but doesn't justify the sheer amount of shit slung his way on the boards. What justifies that is his absurd pick rate and general annoyingness.

Volibear Boss5/5/2017, 10:19:56 PM2 votes

Lee sin does not fall off because of his usefulness in lategame. He can still make the insec kick in lategame, and stay very important because of it, so yes, he doesnt fall off.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku5/5/2017, 10:23:05 PM1 votes

This is falling off. Maybe not enough, but still falling off.

Its enough... but there no late atm [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Fed by Snu Snu5/5/2017, 10:24:44 PM1 votes

Lee Sin falls off in comparison to himself. He loses just one of his attributes, the roaming and isolating part of a jungler/roamer champion. But where other roamers (see Pantheon) lose their only saving grace completely, Lee Sin still has other roles to fall back to and continue to influence the game.

If you fall down to 50% win rate after 40 minutes...well whatever.

Troll for Trump5/6/2017, 4:44:13 AM1 votes

Sometimes a lot of described fall offs aren't fall offs. Many of them are conditional.

Yeah, in plat+ when people have good, organized comps, that play as a team, they can deal with Lee Sin as the game progresses.

Lower ranks don't do that as well, so it doesn't feel like they fall off.

That's why things like Darius Fiora Riven LeeSin Caitlyn don't fall off for them.

Fall offs are often only because of certain conditions that are usually in place as the game progresses in high elo

SwiftKitten885/6/2017, 7:33:12 PM1 votes

yeah... most of the boards still hate Nidalee .. even though she is absolute trash at the moment...

i mean hell six month ago when she had a 38% win rate (beatign out the 10th place spot for the lowest win rate in the HISTORY of leage (she is up to 44% now) i asked for a buff and i got like 40 downvotes..

most people here have zero concept of balance.

i mean hell two days ago i got downvoted by a person. when i asked riot to TEST their balance changes b4 pushing them live?

like seriously... if u WANT the game to be unbalanced u should be banned from posting in the balance section...