Telling someone to KYS should be ban on action.

GULAG 4 U··37 votes·2,545 views

Telling someone to kill themselves and constantly flaming should be a ban on sight. Happened to me last game where the silver 3 constantly pinged me when I last hit his minions when he was dead and told me to be map aware (?) and learn lane control. It's simply not an acceptable behaviour to tell someone to jump off a cliff.

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Zezockary10 votes

It should probably bump you an extra punishment tier like extreme racism or hate speech does, personally I think it is worse than those things.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

It's about as bad.

Astôlfo3 votes

Extreme racism/hate speech are all punishable by an immediate permaban on the first offense. I believe OP just wants telling someone to end their own life to be punishable the same way.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

^ Yes, that's what I meant. I poorly worded this post.

TyrekGoldenspear6 votes

I didn't read the comments yet, but i bet there will be those that try to excuse this behavior.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Already happening.

Dominick Destine4 votes

The system is draconian, so "naughty words" are punisable , excessively so. Real infractions like intentional feeding, hacking, troll picking, etc.... these are the only things that should lead to bans.

The ONLY time words should ever lead to a permaban is a dox + death threat, everything else is just meaningless trash talk.

Astôlfo3 votes

"draconian"

pfffffft.

TrulyBland2 votes

Hey, at least he took it down a notch. He's no longer calling it ultra draconian. I mean, given that he's recently also called the system "absurdly hyper draconian", that's even two notches.

Sepherous3 votes

or you could mute them? or just get over it? becuase it would seem as though youre still ok? there are children starving in africa and youre mad someone hurt your feels in a video game? maybe the problem with the comunity is the sense of entitlement every other player has that they and all their kindergarten pals should be the only ones alowed to play the game because they have never raged or been upset in their lives, people have bad days and trying to get their toys taken away is a dick move. I've had my honorable player badge, i have santa baron icon and ive been a mouth breathing pleb since season 1 and ive seen and heard all types of shit talked and guess what... im good i still wake up the next day. use your mute button kids. its not hard.

GULAG 4 U5 votes

I did, and how does it make him telling other people to kill themselves Okay? It doesn't.

Sepherous2 votes

alot of things in the world arent ok, hence why video games are a nice release, and you most likely just got that person banned for talking shit in a game he played for fun, your gonna be fine regardless cupcake. thicken your skin thats not the first time youve hear some one say awful shit in a video game and wont be the last. most video games involve murder death blood cursing sex drugs ect. but thats all fine well and good untill somone says it to you in the chat? ok... sure... must be the community.

GULAG 4 U5 votes

So? The person was constantly flaming according to other people who've played with him, why should he play if he's being an asshole? There is no reason why he should be allowed to be a jerk, it doesn't matter what other things have happened.

Sepherous2 votes

if nothing matters to you accept for the fact that, that one person in that game of league was mean to you, you may be missing some very real issues in your life, saying other things dont matter is like saying context doesnt matter in any situation which is jsut wrong on a few different levels, you should feel entitled to take the game away from somone who was mean to you and thats the point, theres toxicity in every community regardless of the type of game. its a fact of life, and obvious the end all be all of banning the toxic players DOESNT work. maybe instead of breeding that sense of enlightenment we could just ban together as a comunity and use our mute buttons

GULAG 4 U5 votes

So you're telling me because of some other bullshit that happens it's okay for another person to flame? No it's not.

Sepherous2 votes

not once did i tell you it was ok. i said it shouldnt be reportable. im defending the idea that players shouldnt be able to report people for talking shit and getting others banned for it. youre not the developer you are the player and most people have taken this summoners tribunal thing way to far. talking shit is irrelevant. and if its not them im sure that you can name everyone whos ever flammed you because it obviously had such a lasting impression?

GULAG 4 U5 votes

If it isn't reportable then it means it's Okay. It doesn't matter if there's a mute button, it is not acceptable to flame. Case fucking closed.

Sepherous2 votes

so if i decide that i dont like that you cursed at me should i be able to report this thread? or if i dont like what you have to say should i just curl up into a ball and give up? no ill reply however i want and in the manner i want to because the "case" isnt a case and doesnt need to be investigated becuase no one cares at the end of the day, you wont lose sleep and neither will i, you report becuase you want that person to be banned not to clean the comunity not to help anyone but becuase YOU want HIM to be unhappy because HE did that to YOU, the only difference is you get to feel high and mighty after the fact, and you still get to play the game.

GULAG 4 U5 votes

I did not curse at you, I said the thread is closed. And no he shouldn't be allowed to play if he flames. There is no counter argument, everything you've said is bullshit and are excuses.

Sepherous3 votes

so if youre completely unwilling to accept another persons opinion, and you completely dsregard the things ive said, why even post on the forum lol

GULAG 4 U3 votes

I should consider the idea of flaming being Okay?

Dominick Destine1 votes

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I should consider the idea of flaming being Okay?

There is an ignore function built into the game.

If someone is truly violating the summoner code , you can report them after game.

GankRiven1 votes

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GULAG 4 U1 votes

???

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I did, and it doesn't make flaming okay.

KORGtuners2 votes

What does Silver 3 have to do with anything? Sounds like you are being demeaning. Wait am I being demeaning now?

Also, I hear some people like jumping off cliffs.

Also, as long as you take breaks in between flaming it is ok?

Also, your entire post should have been 1 sentence long. More specifically, your first sentence.

Also, you seem like you are having a bad day so I try to lighten your mood through jokes.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

I q'd with a friend's friend, and he was extremely toxic in game. I just pointed out the said person was sivler 3, that's all.

KORGtuners2 votes

Which is negative. Which will get you banned. Don't believe me? Keep on doing it. $1 says Riot support calls it "demeaning language".

HorusEye3 votes

He was pointing out that the guy was Silver 3, not spamming in chat with the guy like "LOL UR SILVER 3 WUT A NOOB" in-game.

KORGtuners1 votes

I don't make the rules.

If you don't think using rank against someone is ban worthy, then by all means keep on doing it. Regardless if it is ban worthy or not, rank has zero relevance to his issue. They would be just as upset if a challenger told them to kill themselves.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/reports-how-do-they-work

For example, in most regions, calling another player “bronze” is heavily reported, but we’ve learned that in Korea, even calling players “silver” is offensive.

TrulyBland2 votes

And the sentence before that is:

Importantly, each region owns their own community standards and we customize the system for every region to account for cultural differences.

The entire point of the sentence you quoted is to point out that something being considered (not) offensive on one server does not necessarily mean it's (not) offensive on another. More specifically, it implies that stating somebody is silver is not generally considered offensive outside of the korean server.

You don't make the rules, but maybe you should read them.

KORGtuners1 votes

Argue all you want.

The point. ^ Your head.

TrulyBland2 votes

Your provided source/quote directly contradicts the things you were saying (Neutrally stating that somebody is Silver 3 being generally offensive/demeaning). Are you sure it's me that doesn't understand the point you were making?

KORGtuners2 votes

Why does it matter what rank any of the players are?

A challenger tells a bronze to kill themselves = ban A bronze tells a challenger to kill themselves = ban A silver tells a bronze to kill themselves = ban A bronze tells a silver to kill themselves = ban A bronze tells a bronze to kill themselves = ban

Happened to me last game where the silver 3 constantly pinged me when I last hit his minions when he was dead and told me to be map aware (?) and learn lane control

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What does Silver 3 have to do with anything?

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I just pointed out the said person was sivler 3, that's all.

Rank has no relevance. So why mention it? You guessed it, OP is trying to make themselves feel superior.

EDIT: Notice the part where OP says "THE" silver 3?

President Swa1n1 votes

Answer the following:

Was OP using rank to offend someone explicitly?

If no, was he using rank to offend someone IMPLICITLY?

If yes, how do you know?

Be honest, if he had said 'the diamond 2', we wouldn't be having this discussion.

KORGtuners1 votes

I'll be honest.

Offend, is probably the wrong word. I imagine OP had more intent to prove themselves superior than to offend. Good luck trying to convince another person you are superior without offending them.

Since I answer your questions how about you be the first to answer mine?

WHY IS RANK RELEVANT TO THE SITUATION?

Be honest, if he had said 'the diamond 2', we wouldn't be having this discussion.

WRONG. There is no rank where you get to tell someone to kill themselves.

President Swa1n1 votes

If he was trying to act superior, would he not have started his own rank? There is about a 65% chance statistically that OP is lower than S3.

Whether it not it's relevant is irrelevant. People subconsciously and meaninglessly include these kinds of details in descriptions of events.

KORGtuners1 votes

Why can't you admit rank is irrelevant to the situation?

If it is just subconscious and meaningless details, then why won't the OP edit it out?

I grow tired of this argument. You win.

President Swa1n1 votes

It IS irrelevant and I said that whether it's irrelevant is irrelevant because he still did not offend anyone. I repeat, you are going off total assumption. When people are giving descriptions of an event, the often include meaningless details that don't really mean much in the overall context of the story. This is one of those cases.

GankRiven2 votes

as someone who has had a friend been pushed over the edge and actually done this i 100% agree. people dont take life seriously enough and because of a 4 man premades assholish behavior i lost a good friend.

GankRiven1 votes

dude youre an douche. i lost my friend and you think im trolling? this is the exact kind of behavior that makes the community so petty and disliked.

DeathTheHorseman6 votes

Have you ever considered that if your friend (assuming you didn't lie and I am just feeding the troll) really had the will to live some anonymous kids on the net telling them to kys would push them over the edge?

Suicide is not something you do cause a kid told you to on the internet... Get real. If your friend really committed it he had other reasons.

In fact, if some kid told me to kys that would be the last thing I would want to do. (Humans are stubborn creatures in general) Instead I would want to dunk the snot nosed brat and shut him up. (or make him flame more which is even better).

P.S. Please don't fcking bring up a friend who suicided in a board discussion to use as your argument that saying kys should be bannable... He might turn over in their grave if he knew what petty things you involve him in.

GankRiven2 votes

youre literally disgusting. you dont suffer from bipolar depression, you dont know what its like to deal with it. his life wasnt great but league was something that me and him bonded over. to say that im a troll and call me petty is un-needed, for the simple fact that i brought him up? yeah he had a lot of shit going on but youre disregarding the fact that peoples actions ingame or even on the boards do matter and that words do hurt some people. lots of people wonder why i dislike this community so much and its because of people like you. you dont take life seriously enough. if you did you wouldnt be so insensitive.

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

We don't all feel that way bro.

You have my deepest condolences for your loss.

This is why i report people who say terrible things like this. Human life is precious.

GankRiven3 votes

thank you, we need more like you on this board.

Not HeIping You1 votes

dont waste your time trying to argue with idiots like that, they just don't understand, everyone perceives and handles things in life vastly different than other people, especially those with mental illness and physical disabilities, sorry about your friend, just know that this is a fair world and eventually what goes around, comes back around, and those people that treated him poorly will face their own consequences in life.item 2010 item 2010 item 2010

Oh Look Kaede1 votes

What if they said go kys. Meaning go to Kingwood Yacht Sales?

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I'm saying tellin someone to go kill themselves, not KYS specifically. Also considering the player was spamming pings on me it was clear what he meant.

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