Can we BUFF towers, and not weaken them?

i agree buff towers armor i dont mind the minion changes but towers are just too quick to kill

This is the biggest flaw with this patch imho. If anything towers should be stronger than they had been, ESPECIALLY with this rift herald buff thing.

If Summoner's Rift is supposed to be primarily about playing around objectives, why give teams less opportunity to do that by killing off the objectives sooner?

Just seems to be pushing SR toward more of a Team Deathmatch style game.

I feel like towers this preseason need constant babysitting. I leave to roam or back to pick up items and even if my lane is pushed half my tower's HP is gone by the time I get back. Tower damage is also pretty pathetic too, tower dives are ridiculously easy to pull off now.

FioraTheExplora--I completely agree! The towers are practically irrelevant. They should hurt and the closer a champ gets to the nexus, the more they should hurt! Defense should be brought back as a part of a winning game and that includes viable towers that actually matter! It should be possible for a team that learns from their mistakes, develops some strategies to come back for a win too, like it once was possible to do.

A good Caitlyn is a nightmare for most team comps, I left her alone once literally for 1.5 minutes with her Thresh Support and she took the entire tower. Mind you this was only 7 minutes into the game as well.

I dislike the change to turrets, they are far too vveak at all stages of the game. Especially the deeper turrets. No one is really punishing this in my games, but it feels like you can never leave lane, for fear your turret vvill die before you return.

That is such a hyperbole. Its more like four shot a tower.

Completely agreed. The whole concept of towers is to defend your team and your base, not serve as free gold for the enemy team.

Why is this ignored by Riot? We post this daily have 10,000 ups and no response... Why isn't this done? Reds need to respond to this as it's a huge f**k off that it isn't.

Towers getting buffs would be intresting.

HOW ABOUT UPGRADING TOWERS WITH ITEMS

Upgradable turrets would give players the option in how they like their towers to work. Want your towers more durable? No problem buy them some armor. Want them to have more Damage no problem get them a weapons upgrade, or how about some more range? Sick of seeing your tower being whittled down by constant shoving and want to buy them some health regen now you can. Tired of your team not using you splipush prowess to pressure objectives how about you upgrade a line of turrets to give minions a temporary buff!

Have players be able to upgrade their turrets in the shop by spending gold. Via a tab in the shop players can select turrets, from there players can select which line of turrets to upgrade, outer, inner, inhibitor and nexus turrets. Upgrades would cost an appropriate amount of gold. Upgrades can be a items for example;

Defensive Items, like giving turrets a selection of items players can buy for them, this could be aura items like aegis, minion buff items like banner where it would buff a minion whom passes by. Other things could be stuff like a shield generator. Or maybe a thornmail or whatever these items may be, these items would ofcoarse have buildpaths, items bought apply to all turrets in that specific line, example; you buy health regen item for all outer turrets, or increased vision range.

Offensive upgrades Like buffing its range or damage, but also altering its attack behavior and type of atacks, think about stuff like splash damage or turning its damage into magic damage. But also increasing the overheat capacity or the way it attacks, lasers, or slow firing large heavy hitting aoe blasts, or fast attacks, or allowing it to hit more than one target (splitting it's attacks and damage)

Both types of upgrades come in the form of items so turrets can only have 6 upgrades each. The balance in this turretbuff is that you either spend gold on turret upgrading or buying items for your champion. But contrary to champions, when turrets are dead they wont just respawn on the fountain :)

Yay, I love when someone is winning lane and there is literally no way to even do relatively well cause oh look... my towers dead...

I think they said they were increasing tower health soon. (more health than the current boosted health)

Heck, Nasus can almost 1 shot towers now.

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There's no point in playing siege champions/comps when any given ADC can 3 shot a tower.

I have seen cait and lucian take a tower at lvl 3-5 after they get first blood. gg world.

5.22 brought intense tower pushing and towers got nerfed, why RIOT? Buff turrets and make them a team based objective you shouldn't be melting my turrets and winning 1V3's anyway.

Towers are so weak Minion block is so bad (Spagheti Code) Crits everywhere What can we do...

Tanks are not tanks as used to be...

You cannot engage and stay alive like 5 seconds. Just sad...

Honestly, buff the hell outta towers. Make 'em chunk the hell outta players, increase their defenses, done.

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A long time ago Rito once decreed "Early game thou laser statues shall protect thy. Late game thou shall protect thy laser structures." And so it was.

I fail to see what's wrong with this concept. If the entire enemy team is coming up to your tower... Leave, simple as that. I like to count turrets as half an ally. 1.5 V 4? Yeah we're not winning this. Now your turret dies for you while you run away. Be happy. If you care so much about all your towers then group.

ADC's 3 shotting towers? Fuck man I'm an assassin and I 2 shot ADC's. Maybe i should make sure that ADC doesn't get to my tower.

Moves and counter moves my friend.. Moves and counter moves

they shouldn't have removed the armor on all the turrets. They should have kept it on the inner turrets in the bases. And I don't understand why red buff can hurt the turret now. Having gangplank's passive hitting the turret was annoying enough but now red buff can hurt the turrets? Ugh.

they did

all the tower got tons more hp

They made these changed to help mage take turrets. It's not really a flaw at all I can hardly tell the difference, due to the hp increase. I do enjoy your "when any given ADC can 3 shot a tower" hyperbole though, but that is too far fetched.

To the one that says you left a Caitlyn and threshold only for a minute and a half. Of course they took you tower even before the preseason patch you can do that, and yes seven minutes depending on what you have built, rune, and the new op masteries.

We're players that go through this every preseason. We just adapt to the new play styles and make the most out of it.

There's never ganna be a time that all comps are good