HOW DO I LANE AGAINST MORDE AS MELEE?

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Malicious Metal6 votes

You don't.

Bend over and accept your fate.

Real talk though, there are a few hard melee counter picks that work well or can hold their ground.

But first a few basic things: -Morde thrives in extended trades due to his shield and harvester healing -Don't fight him in your own minion waves or he'll just get a ton of free shield -Kill his W'd minion to deny him the spell -Disengage when he q's

Typically Morde wins against most melees due to being a juggernaut like Illaoi and Darius but these few can totally ruin his day, go even or just survive him Jax Darius Illaoi Chogath DrMundo Olaf Tryndamere

Stars Shaper1 votes

I learned how to play Morde top against an Illaoi... After beating her I could feed on any1, I'm not scared of any matchup now (except Cho'gath, that guy is pure counterpick).

Malicious Metal1 votes

Well yeah, if you truly git gud at Morde you can win almost any matchup. Hell, I struggled a ton against Tryndamere for a while and now I can even win that matchup

Stars Shaper1 votes

Can't say I met a valid number of good ones but all I found out about dealing with them is playing the "drain game", you keep yourself at the highest HP possible while poking the hell out of him and in this situation Grasp of the Undying is more of help, he will use his ultimate to survive you and if you can then time your ultimate and ignite while also keeping him low then it's a huge win.

Astôlfo3 votes

By playing in the lane he's in?

kappa

Ralanr2 votes

Don't do sustained fights. You will lose.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

am just trying to sit under my god damn tower and cs. and i can't even do that. E W spam. i can't do nothing. i can't stay in my damn lane

Malicious Metal1 votes

What did you play as?

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

Jax. am not trying to fight him. i just want to sit under my god damn turret. and grab literally. just melee minions. i don't even wanna step up to last hit the other ones. but No he Ws whatever minion am trying to kill and boom. i do no damage and he does. if a turret hits him his shield absorbs it.

Malicious Metal3 votes

You do know that Jax can just all in Morde, right? He's extremely vulnerable early on and you can just E his third Q, get out of melee range with Q and out DPS him

Sure, he can W-heal cheese you under turret and absorb one tower shot but so can Pantheon.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

pantheon Q range is much lower. also mana.

specter4242 votes

Running away from him when he presses Q. I don't know how anyone could die to Morde 1v1 if he has no Rylais.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I didn't die to him until he got rylais. it doesn't take 45 minutes to finish 1 item.

LookBehindYouLOL1 votes

FULL LIFE STEAL BOI

Rustling Bush1 votes

well he lacks any form of cc and he isn't mobile, beating him in a straight up slug fest isn't the answer so just play cautiously and harass.

think of him like Trundle

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

WHAT HARASS. AM MELEE.

i have no fucking harass. i can't farm under my fucking turret. he ws minions heals them. himself. and damages me. i can't last fucking hit. and He Es me and his shield absord the turret hit if any. what the fuck is this cancer

Malicious Metal1 votes

Calm down there, Morde is annoying I give you that, especially to those who have no clue how he works

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I fucking play morde i know exactly how he works. am losing lane to morde. JUST BECAUSE. darius. is the biggest fucking bully in this game. at least knowingly. I can out play. him. I can't outplay morde. what kind of great champion design is this?

Malicious Metal1 votes

So why aren't you able to beat him? You know his weaknesses, abuse 'em

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

how can i abuse his weaknesses with a champion that has to be in melee range with him to do anything?

trundle. does not have any ranged harass. morde does.

Malicious Metal1 votes

Low base armor Abysmal MS Relies on getting three whole AA's off with low AS, AS slows cripple him Needs minions in order to use his W and enemy minions to reliable get his shield up

Extremely vulnerable to ganks

No real sustain if you deny him his W heal

If you're AD get an early hex drinker

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

dude i went spirit visage first item and he fucking soloed me while my jungler ganked got a kill on him and i had a kill on him. he was 0/3. and he soloed me. because gigantic ap ratio on ult and Q is very much fun.

i dont want. to fight him. i just want to cs. he poked me down and ulted me and flashed to Q me. what am i supposed to do. if i can't even sit under my turret to survive. then there is something wrong with the champion am playing against.

Ralanr1 votes

Why visage? Jax doesn't have inbuilt sustain.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

so his third Q doesn't do half my health in damage?.

you think jax has enough damage to kill morde in less than 2 q rotations. then you have never played jax to know how shit his early damage is.

Ralanr1 votes

The spellblade shield might have been better.

Plus you're Jax. If you are not saving your E for his 3rd Q then what are you doing?

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

they changed morde. so his 2nd Q does close damage to his Third Q. few patches ago. so his window of power is much longer. also rylais is no fun.

Ralanr1 votes

No..the first 2 do the same damage while the third Q does more.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

yes. what i mean is they increased the damage for the first two and lowered the last one. but its still a lot if you don't have any tank items

Ralanr1 votes

You can still avoid it by running away or using your E if he chases you down.

Selegun1 votes

Care to clear up how you use Jax E to block Mordekaiser's 3rd Q? I'm all for telling him how he isn't playing well but the least you can do is give him all the information. It's just not fair to rile him up and set him up for failure at the same time.

Ralanr1 votes

It's a dodge and dodge's and blocks avoid the effect on on hit spell effects.

Selegun1 votes

You'll have to forgive me for calling shenanigans but about a month or two ago I was on the delivering end of the opposite result. Unless my Trinity force dealt around 1k damage I'd like to know what bug killed that raging Jax.

Ralanr1 votes

It's no problem. There are bugs where it doesn't work sometimes.

Selegun1 votes

I couldn't trouble you to show me a source that says it blocks the damage? I only ask because I've done a bit of checking into Mace of Spades on lolwiki and in the notes explicitly calls out the damage cannot be blocked nor dodged.

Ralanr1 votes

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I couldn't trouble you to show me a source that says it blocks the damage? I only ask because I've done a bit of checking into Mace of Spades on lolwiki and in the notes explicitly calls out the damage cannot be blocked nor dodged.

Looking back at it, it looks like I'm wrong. But that shouldn't be the case. Morde's Q is supposed to be an on hit effect isn't it?

Selegun1 votes

I cant find any references to Mace of Spades being an on-hit effect. If I was to hazard a guess the ability might act like a single target spell that's limited to Mordekaiser's auto attack range. This would make sense if you consider the bug with Titanic Hydra. If your not aware, Titanic Hydra wont proc if Mace of Spades damage is enough to finish off its target. Thinking about it I'd say Mace of Spades hits first followed by a basic attack that's 'hidden' under the spell effect.

Edit: There is mention that Mace of Spades will proc on-hit effects. This explains my Triforce damage blowing past Jax shield

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

item 3102 item 3156 item 3146 item 3124 item 3091 item 3020

meh. idk one of those items should work.

Malicious Metal2 votes

Have you ever considered that you, well, suck at Jax then?

Don't rush an entire tank item on a bruiser that scales so well with offense. No wonder he out dueled you if you do no damage.

His R AP ratio is pitiful and it only starts dealing damage around level 11 or about 200 AP his Q hits hard because it's literally what a Juggernaut's supposed to be good at; Hard hitting melee damage

GULAG 4 U1 votes

If you lose lane as jax against mordekaiser you are clearly doing something wrong. Morde can't get off your counterstrike and can't deal meaningful damage to you when you use it. MCL is known for complaining, he almost always complains and whenever you tell him it's his fault and not the champion he goes onto Yasuo mains rage.

Rustling Bush1 votes

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dude i went spirit visage first item and he fucking soloed me while my jungler ganked got a kill on him and i had a kill on him. he was 0/3. and he soloed me. because gigantic ap ratio on ult and Q is very much fun.

i dont want. to fight him. i just want to cs. he poked me down and ulted me and flashed to Q me. what am i supposed to do. if i can't even sit under my turret to survive. then there is something wrong with the champion am playing against.

maybe you simply just lost to someone who was better?

CAN'T BE THAT MORDEKAISER WRECKS ALL MELEE CHAMPIONS. - you

dude, if you went spirit visage first then your not going to have the dueling power necessary to actually fight back, jax always gets his damage items early then become tankier later in the game, you just neutered yourself buying a early item 3065, letting him poke and harass all he wants because he knows you can't fight back with no damaging items. really any champion can start outrading people when they get ahead, any, mordekaiser isn't the problem (hes in a very bad spot), you are.

Rustling Bush1 votes

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WHAT HARASS. AM MELEE.

i have no fucking harass. i can't farm under my fucking turret. he ws minions heals them. himself. and damages me. i can't last fucking hit. and He Es me and his shield absord the turret hit if any. what the fuck is this cancer

its called hitting him, then running away, the fuck are you playing Darius, outside of him every melee champions have some form of escape, defensive or harassing tool

Malicious Metal1 votes

and both of them can fuck up Morde rather easily

TequilaZombie1 votes

Not to mention that everyone is faster than Morde. Walking away is OP. It's literally the only reason why I don't play Morde. People just walk away and there is jack shit I can do.

Ralanr3 votes

"COME BACK SO I CAN KILL YOU!!!"

TequilaZombie1 votes

Exactly how I feel all the time as Morde

Malicious Metal1 votes

They're already dead before they realize they've made the mistake to letting me get into 600 range

TequilaZombie1 votes

After item 3116. Before that Morde is not a real champion, he's some sort of semi-mobile turret

HongChongDong1 votes

Don't play melee vs a morde. Half of the game is champ select, and if you fuck up there then you can't really complain if you do horribly in-game.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

You burst him? Don't let him get off W heal on you? Play darius? Play Jax? Don't let him get free Qs on you? Ask for jungler ganks?

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

you play singed and dance near the bushes.

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