A lot of the nerfs he had gotten were due to him absuing the hell out of Rylais and making it a more durable Ap/tanky/utility option would allow Azir to get some love and make him less oppressive if he won't be building Rylais or only as a last item.
Big Lincoln20 votesreworking azir would allow riot to buff azir
edit: wtf malicious this isn't a mord thread
Evewynn33 votesMM is on a Rylai's thing right now. Rylai's is Morde's item, so don't worry, this is still secretly a morde thread.
Malicious Metal19 votesShoot, I've been found out!
AgeOfTheMage1 votesahaha! i wonder who would win tho, azir or morde? as much as i love morde <3 azirs long distance poke would be too much unless morde flashed ulted, cept azir could ult.
Moonshade2 votesHow would reworking him help? His identity is as a mage ADC essentially since his soldiers provide zones of consistent damage that are able to shred through people based on his AS, he only needs Rylai's for two main purposes and that's so his soldiers can get a decent number of attacks off after he moves them because his W range is pitiful, and their attack radius was already nerfed so its harder to land a good number of stabs post Q, which the slow allows for. The other reason is that even though Q is on a low CD in many team fight situations his damage (his soldiers) are very easy to kite around, ADCs which are his closest competition for consistent damage are able to relocate and adjust their threat area between every shot vs Azir who has to wait on a 2-3 second CD to continue to be relevant in a fight. To top it all off Riot nerfed his main defensive tool and designed his other one to be near useless against hard engage. His E hitbox is super glitchy such that u can be stopped from dashing by someone totally opposite the direction u were aiming due to hit box overlap, preventing u from escaping from that Akali or any other hard engage champion capable of soloing him. His R now has less than half the duration it used to as well preventing it from serving as an effective buffer zone to allow him to self peel and kill hard engage champions with burst before they can get to him (Akali being the example again), even pre-nerf it wasn't that strong as champions like Zed, Fizz or anyone with flash up could also circumvent it's safety to kill him.
As far as I'm concerned Azir is much less irritating to play against than a Lux since she throws out her stupid giant Es from a mile away and chunks your whole team for 500 damage a cast, and if you get caught in her snare mid-late game you better have a ton of MR or a GA up cuz you're about to be dead in under 2 seconds
SpecterVonBaren5 votesIf I were to rework him it would be to change how his Q works and give him an entirely new E. His Q should have a much lower cooldown and much lower damage, it should be all about repositioning his soldiers to keep up with people, not be part of his poke.
His E should not be a movement ability, the main weakness he should have is being jumped on, managing his soldiers correctly should be where his skill comes from, not jumping around like an idiot. As for what it could be replaced with, there could be many ideas but how about this for a first one. What if they made his W like TF's W? Make it so he can pick between two different soldiers to summon? A spear soldier and a shield soldier for instance and have his Q manipulate his spear soldier and his E manipulate his shield soldier, have the shield soldier be impassable and block skillshots but have it be pretty small so that he has to clump a couple together to make something substantial or he could strew them out in various spots across the battle field to make skillshots harder to land.
This is JUST an idea, might be good, might be horrible, but it's an example of how you could change his kit and still retain, or even enhance, his theme.
Samflash31 votesOverly complex though.
Lauchmelder1 votesI'd just shift the W passive AS to his Q. That way you counteract the stinger nerf from some patches ago and make him viable again.
NineTailedMystic1 votesA Rioter in a Reddit thread said they were looking into his kit a while ago. Either to change him into a DPS mage like he's supposed to be, or to support the Azir Insec as a battle mage type of champion instead.
AmazoX2 votesRiotGypsy in August, Just stated his own opinion to be exactly accurate. Yes. Although he said, There are 2 options, Give Azir a Mini Rework or Remove Shurima Shuffle but buff him.
NineTailedMystic3 votesThat's what it was, I couldn't remember what he said exactly. I'd rather they keep him a DPS mage and just remove the Insec. Not very thematic for an Emperor to go headfirst into a team of enemies.
ItsOrval2 votesI like Azir's kit personally, except for his ultimate. Hope they dont rework him
IPromiseTomorrow5 votesI'd be so happy getting Azir buffs. He was my favorite champion.
RainbowIcee5 votesyou mean like the buffed sejuany after nerfing cinderhulk ?
Ralanr3 votesMalicious, I don't know if advocating for Azir buffs is wise. He's like the AP version of Yasuo here.
TyrekGoldenspear11 votesWatch it man. Azir is way different.
You can aim a million skillshots at him and Yasuo.
Guess which one survives?
Ralanr8 votesMalicious Metal14 votesHe's got a point. Azir actually requires skill as opposed to Yasuo.
Source: I can play Yasuo decently well but suck balls at Azir
Ralanr4 votesEh, once you get 
as Azir he's not too hard. Just requires positioning. The hardest part would be the Shuriman Shuffle, but once you learn that you can cast E while Q soldier is moving it suddenly becomes very simple to pull off.
Malicious Metal10 votesThat's why Rylais shouldn't be getting changed to cater to those mages.
If it's undesirable on Azir he'll be able to get balanced without feeling oppressive
Lauchmelder1 votesI'd still build it on him. Some tanky stats are great for a Shurima Shuffle and the slow is too great to not buy it.
Jet Sett3 votesBoth because Azir E's away.
Sariat11 votesYeah but at least you can hit Azir with skill shots and his combo is much harder mechanically to pull off.
Maligaro Spike3 votesremember when i suggested on reddit to make soldiers not apply spell effect instead of just gutting his base damages and got flamed to hell and told to "git gud"
maikokk1 votesif we do that we are back on the slippery slope of needing an encyclopedia to figure out what items and masteries work with which abilities. we finally normalized spell effects and removed almost every inconsistency. why go backward? i want a better option.
Maligaro Spike1 votesthe better option is flat out rework , this item has been a major problem for the entire season offering huge utility (400hp + permaslow) without any damage tradeoff (gives 100 AP and makes hitting multiple spell easier rising your DPS aswell ).
Many champions had to balanced just because of actual state and not their effective strenght which is pretty bad imho
Raid Boss Morde3 votesThe questions is, do we actually want Azir buffed? He's just a little oppressive in lane.
Malicious Metal5 voteshe could need some buffs, he's absolute trash and if Riot goes for the SMART decision and makes Rylais less/unattractive for these kinds of Mages he can get some buffs without feeling oppressive.
They did chip away a lot of his early damage in favor of a more consistent damage curve a while back
AirKingNeo1 votesOh yeah, they can remove his dash and making him a battle mage who'd get Rylai's as a defensive item.
Cosmic Warper2 votesOh yeah, they can remove his dash and making him a battle mage who'd get Rylai's as a defensive item.
Azir isn't a battle mage though. He's an emperor who uses his long range to zone and DPS targets down with soldiers. Shurima Shuffle is cool and all, but if they were to take him in a specific direction i'd rather they remove the shurima shuffle and focus on his core theme as a backline emperor mage.
AmazoX1 votesI'd rather have em Do a mini rework on him but keep shurima shuffle
AirKingNeo1 votesSo keep a broken mechanic in the game because it looks cool?
AmazoX1 votes''Broken'' Everything in the game is broken if played right mate. Don't be biased.
AirKingNeo1 votesNo it's broken because it actually is very absurd. Things like Malz ult, broken. Trade off he has? Barely any. This is why he's pick in competitive.
Azir ult, broken. Trade off for it? None. This is why he was broken in competitive.
Kayle ult, strong. Trade off? Low base MR, no MR per level. This is why Kayle mid isn't that good in our Syndra/Kennen/Rumble meta.
AmazoX1 votesBut like i said, They'd do a mini rework on azir if they keep Shurima shuffle giving him trade offs as well. P.S you can just QSS out of Malz ult.
AirKingNeo1 votes-1ing everyone's item slots plus a -1300 gold is still extremely powerful.
AirKingNeo1 votesYeah, I would too, remove his dash or his ult, or both, so if any diver dives him, he can't Ult then dash away.
Karn Bishop1 votesPersonally i have never understood why rylai's even works on azir since his minions use enhanced auto attacks? and since rylai does not trigger on auto's the item just shouldn't work on him.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesThe autos are coded as spells.
Trust me, you would not want the soldier's attacks to count as AAs.
Crit items.
As a former Azir main i would jump on those items.
Karn Bishop1 votesWell it still sounds like rylai still shouldn't work on him because yes his minions do enhanced spell based auto's and no champion with ranged magical auto's should be allowed access to a constant slowing item that also gives massive amounts of ap.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesYou see the issue here is you mistake the soldiers attacks for AAs. Perhaps i shouldnt use this wording either.
The soldiers attacks replace Azirs autos when they are in range yes, but they deal damage in an AOE line along their spear.
Becuase it is a spell not a true AA (becuase it can hit multiple things) Rylais applies the AOE duration slow.
The problem with Rylais on Azir is that it gives Azir a false sense of security.
It actually gimps his DPS compared to other stuff he could get, and it stops melees from getting ti him yes, but they were never really a threat to him.
Assassins are a threat to him, and slows don't cut it with assasins.
Long story short, he has been balanced around having this slow that he actually doesn't need as much as he thinks.
crippler381 votesshaco boxes don't trigger rylais, so I'm triggered.
Cosmic Warper1 votesshaco boxes don't trigger rylais, so I'm triggered.
Kayle E triggers rylai's. Think of it that way.
crippler381 votesat least other abilities that work that way, in that they add an on hit effect that doesn't lifesteal, give spell effects normally, shaco boxes not doing it but donger turrets doing it is just annoying.
Tattersall1 votesI just hope they don't add cdr to it. Then my mild ocd wouldn't let me buy a combination of 
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, and because of the stat waste. Sometimes I even want to buy 
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AmazoX2 votesSo you are telling me you don't build Void Staff. U WOT.
