Fiora need a base ms nerf ult bonus ms nerf and a mana nerf

5 Stacks GG·Dec 13, 2015·13 votes·1,261 views

she's so broken Idk why riot allow this to stay at this current state

21 Comments

ForgiveColourDec 13, 20155 votes

76% winrate for people over 125 games on her lel. Cant wait to see people that doesnt even play her defend this broken champ

Cinderhulk RivenDec 13, 20151 votes

And then you notice the sample size. That's probably literally just one guy.

Neo CyrusDec 13, 20152 votes

Yeah with a sample size that's completely negligible. Some champs at 125+ have a 100% win rate right now because they're a whole 3/3 games.

KatCraftDec 13, 20155 votes

People still think she's over powered?

ElegantDogeDec 13, 20151 votes

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People still think she's over powered?

People here still think Yasuo is op so you know...

BakedLotionDec 13, 20154 votes

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People still think she's over powered?

Fiora main detected. Fiora icon.

KatCraftDec 13, 20153 votes

Bronze league detected. You actually think Fiora is op.

BakedLotionDec 13, 20153 votes

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Bronze league detected. You actually think Fiora is op.

lol says the silver

Neo CyrusDec 13, 20153 votes

Don't delude yourself, she is blatantly OP by a large margin. However with the game being a mess, beyond all hope like never before, she's nowhere near the worst offender. There's so much broken shit in the game now that something like Fiora that should be perma-banned gets through a lot of the time.

I don't agree with OP's ideas for nerfs though. A mana nerf to Fiora is way too difficult to get right, a crumb too much and she can never survive the early game. Salty Darius mains are made of salt, what can I say.

I Miss CannonDec 13, 20154 votes

You sound like a salty Darius main. Downvoted.

LankPantsDec 13, 20153 votes

I'd say the first thing they should do is remove the AS slow from her W.

It's extra power that no-one intentionally utilises and no-one notices except when it's screwing them over.

It also rewards misusing her W. IMO the two main use cases are chasing, where you use W for the MS slow and fighting, where you should be aiming for the stun.

Orange CaramelDec 13, 20153 votes

Lol people think fiora is op?

hotarseDec 13, 20153 votes

Fiora is blatantly OP even after a few minor nerfs. Go look up her win rate, it's still absurd, particularly for veteran Fiora players. Fiora scales too hard and does too much damage for how mobile she is.

TyroneWatermelonDec 13, 20152 votes

Simple solution-she should have an ACTUAL mana cost on Q,so she would have to use her brain atleast for that,managing mana.

SolusInCadereDec 13, 20151 votes

Wait, are you proposing to nerf everything about Fiora EXCEPT her broken af parry? WHY

ErockandrollDec 13, 20151 votes

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Wait, are you proposing to nerf everything about Fiora EXCEPT her broken af parry? WHY

explain to me again why or how is it broken, and why you can't/ haven't been trying to bait it out?

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I'd say the first thing they should do is remove the AS slow from her W.

It's extra power that no-one intentionally utilises and no-one notices except when it's screwing them over.

It also rewards misusing her W. IMO the two main use cases are chasing, where you use W for the MS slow and fighting, where you should be aiming for the stun.

AND, why should people always aim for the stun? especially in a scenario, where your opponent doesn't even have CC? Using it for the stun isn't an absolute.

SolusInCadereDec 13, 20151 votes

okay. Its broken for the same reason Yasuo Wind Wall is broken. you can't do anything about it. Its instant cast, so baiting will be next to impossible against a good fiora, since most if not all hard CC has some kind of delay. Plus, think about this ascept of melee ADCs (of which she is one):

They all need some way to stay alive. Tryndamere , he's got ult. MasterYi has heals. etc. Fiora comes with a tonne of healing with her passive and ulti, yet can also negate AND SEND BACK hard CC, therefore giving her mobility, damage, sustain, and hard CC. That is why it is broken

Wicked WaffleDec 13, 20151 votes

If I were to nerf Fiora, I would slightly increase the mana costs on her Q and E to make her less of a lane bully, or simply double the cost of her Q and make it refund 60% of the mana cost when killing an enemy unit. Then, I would remove the Riposte attack speed slow because it's unnecessary; half the time, it doesn't even have much of an impact on certain champions.

Just my two cents, but I think that win-rate doesn't matter that much. On my other account, Plat 3, where I main Fiora, I consistently see people pick Darius against me. This is what I call being a brain-dead person, since in order to beat Fiora, you have to play a person who bursts her down. When you counterpick Darius against me, you are screwing yourself over because you have near zero mobility, and I can dash around you and proc your vitals whenever I want. Fiora is an extremely skill-based champion; it would be obvious that she would have a higher win-rate the more you are accustomed to her; especially if people attempt to counterpick you with champions like Darius. It just doesn't work out.

Also, your argument is hugely invalid. All you're saying is "gut Fiora" without showing any evidence other than win rate. Nerf the base movement speed and additional movement speed? Movement speed is the core component of Fiora; she's a duelist, not a clunky juggernaut like what you usually main. Fiora is the bane of the juggernauts, in case you haven't noticed. Have you ever thought of the factors that influence win rates, and have you ever played Fiora? Remember: before you whine about a champion, play them.

Cinderhulk RivenDec 13, 20151 votes

Fiora hasn't been noteworthy since the World's Patch.