taliyah at 49.38% wr and get a huge buff on PBE while Darius is sitting at a low 46% wr get nothing

5 Stacks GG·11/13/2017, 11:51:36 PM·71 votes·4,131 views

Taliyah Unraveled Earth (E) cooldown lowered from 16/14/12/10/8 to 11/10/9/8/7

Darius is currently the lowest winrate top laner as top as its most played role : https://imgur.com/BbtpdrI

I swear this balance team hates juggernaut...

they even nerfing yorick on the PBE after one patch of being an actual champion for once.

Can we please get an update on Darius by a rioter? why is he not getting buffed, he has too much counterplay for little reward right now he is basically a troll pick.

If Riot doesn't like his rework can we get old Darius then or get a second rework or something?

Edit: when you think he couldn't be worse https://imgur.com/a/1H9wR

125 Comments

TheHappyReaperz11/14/2017, 1:11:22 AM25 votes

Becuase Darius is a juggernaut, and juggernauts are problem children. Any buff to him would just increase his lane dominance, without helping what's really wrong with him.

AL00011/14/2017, 12:37:35 AM14 votes

Darius has some big issues with kitable (from top range and teamfight) and no escape from gank.

gabetheguy11/14/2017, 12:48:18 AM11 votes

as a darius main, this speaks to me. :'(

CrazFight 11/14/2017, 12:11:57 AM8 votes

The yorick win rate is hotfix worthy (Riot actually said if this was a normal patch he would have been hotfixed, same with ezreal), so I can understand nerfing him.

EbonyBladeJ8811/14/2017, 12:23:55 AM8 votes

The deal with Yorick is because he is a split-pusher Juggernaut. And considering Towers are made of toilet paper, basically, he now does his job TOO WELL, in their opinion. (I'm an L7 Mastery Yorick player, just for clarification. I should think I know what I'm talking about.) I think, now this is just MY opinion on the Yorick ordeal, is that it's because now that Yorick's Q can be used on Towers, it gives him a watered-down version of the Demolish Rune for free (And if he chooses to take the Demolish rune, which I have JUST to see how well it has synergism with him) he can level the things faster than you can say Mist Walker. So I think all that is REALLY needed is just tone back the bonus damage that his Q does, and he should be A-OK.

I compared it with how much I would do with Darius and Garen who are my other go-tos in the top-lane, and when they use their AA Resets on a tower, they'd do roughly 20-25 extra damage in comparison to a normal AA. Yorick, on the other hand...

My general build with Yorick by my first siege of a tower in a single game is usually as follows: item 3044 item 1001 And a random starter towards an Armor or MR item as the case may be with the Enemy Team-comp. Commonly I'm about Level 4, MAYBE Level 5 if I've managed a near-on perfect farming rate. One unaltered AA usually deals 20-30 damage or less with no minions around. Boosted with his Q, that would get ramped up to maybe about 50-60.

Thing is, Yorick's Q is often the first maxed skill, (At least for ME) so and combined with his natural growth from leveling, that damage reduction becomes PRETTY NEGLIGIBLE. I got to the point where I was doing about 250 with a Q that was a 3 sec cooldown. So he CAN get pretty ridiculous if he gets his traction going. Now, as I said above, Yorick is basically THE Split-Pusher Juggernaut of his class. So in order to work in that identity, he NEEDS a tower-leveling capability. So in conclusion, all I think our dear Shepherd needs is a BIT of a tone-down on the Q damage to towers. Otherwise he's perfectly fine in my book.

Now Darius... that's a whole 'nother ball game. It's sad to see how far down he's fallen, considering he's my favorite champ of all time. I've been struggling to take on AI with him, so that should attest to the slump he's in. Unfortunately, I'm not all that certain what to suggest by way of buffs/changes for the old Dunkmaster, but he needs some love.

Who is Taliyah11/14/2017, 12:43:51 AM8 votes

Taliyahs winrate has dropped from 48% to 46 - 45.5% since the pre-season patch. Where do you get your 49% from?

Leah Kakuni11/14/2017, 12:23:39 AM7 votes

I dont think they would buff darius without him being even more oppressive in low elo.

JackMcSnipeyz11/14/2017, 7:12:05 AM6 votes

Because when darius is strong he is extreamly opressive, other juggernauts can get number tweaks and still manage able, darius only counter play is be ranged or have shit ton of disengage. Ever went melee into darius? You cant trade with him.

Skorch11/14/2017, 5:25:33 AM5 votes

"Huge Buff"

Zane Zephyr11/14/2017, 5:07:12 AM4 votes

Taliyah buff is getting reverted tho, theyre gonna wait on it

Kloqdq11/14/2017, 2:19:02 PM3 votes

The real issue is Riot can't out right buff him even if he is doing trash. Darius is the prime class of pubstompers in this game and any time he is even remotely good, he'll crush low elo EVEN harder. Yet, he almost always finds a way to suck or just be okay in high elo. Personally, a Darius that doesn't pubstomp but does consistently well is something I have no idea how to create. This struggle of low to high is the main reason he'll never be buffed. This means Darius needs more niche changes to fix his main issues while allowing power to be put back into his kit.

REPORTYASUOXD11/14/2017, 8:29:00 AM3 votes

BUFF DARIUS

Salamencę11/14/2017, 8:47:11 AM2 votes

Yeah I stopped playing darius since the new patch because he's just so weak.

DarwinTheory11/14/2017, 8:30:26 AM1 votes

Darius is still broken and OP. The issue is ADC tops make him irrelevant and he has no mobility.

This is a rare time it's the forums crying for something that isn't necessary. The issue is ADCs. If you buff Darius it's just fixing a knock on effect rather than the root cause.

ChidoriTrueSpear11/14/2017, 1:03:25 AM1 votes

What if they gave Darius a knock back on his Q?