Rengar is not OP because of his numbers or gameplay. He is OP because of nerfed trinkets and wards.

BluePolarizer··4 votes·528 views

Back in season 5, Rengar was never a problem. He had his strength: deleting lone squishies out of thin air. He also had his weakness: teamfighting. Why was teamfighting a weakness? Because against an enemy Rengar, the ADC can buy a pink ward totem while the support and jungler (positioned further out) can buy a sweeping lens and detect Rengar from far away at crucial times in the fight. Mid and top can either take their own sweepers or get upgraded yellow trinkets to deep ward and warn against Rengars coming in from the flanks.

Currently, the support has to spend an entire slot and very limited gold income on pinks late game while the ADC can't do anything. Solo laners can no longer ward as effectively due to no green wards and weak yellow trinket. Red trinket also does NOTHING against a Rengar since not only is the radius tiny and you don't actually see him, his red outline is delayed, meaning it's way harder to hit skillshots on him than usual.

This is why Rengar had a HUGE jump in win rate in preseason.

My suggestion for nerfing Rengar: don't. Revert the nerf to red trinket and make pink ward trinket buyable again, even for a huge cost like 400 gold.

This literally only affects Rengar and a Teemo who stands still. It doesn't even affect Twitch or Eve since Twitch is either backline or far-away flanking while Eve is visible when she is in range anyhow. It also affects Shaco a bit, but not anywhere near as much as Rengar. Rengar will also not be UP because of this change since he was at a healthy 49-50% win rate throughout season 5.

7 Comments

Chroud1 votes

Best Rengar post ive seen yet. +1

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

how about this: he isnt fucking op. l2p.

like wtf man, "the support has to waste an entire slot... blablablabla" that is EXACTLY why fucking noobs cry about rengar all the time. how about EVERYONE ON YOUR TEAM carries a pinkward AT ALL TIMES even if they have one ward placed on the map allready.

oh you are all full build? well, better dont farm wolves then.

Hayaishi21 votes

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how about this: he isnt fucking op. l2p.

like wtf man, "the support has to waste an entire slot... blablablabla" that is EXACTLY why fucking noobs cry about rengar all the time. how about EVERYONE ON YOUR TEAM carries a pinkward AT ALL TIMES even if they have one ward placed on the map allready.

oh you are all full build? well, better dont farm wolves then.

Why should it take so much effort to the point it becomes a chore trying to counter a single champion? That is bad champion design, Rengar is BROKEN and should be reworked.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

lol man its a chore to buy a 75 gold item on everyone to counter an ENTIRE CHAMPION? if that worked for every champion you would have to spend 1875 gold as a team to win the game.

seriously man, you are nothing more than an ant.

BluePolarizer1 votes
  1. It doesn't work that way. You can't completely counter Rengar by everyone buying a pink ward since someone will be farming alone. It limits your team's farm while the enemy team's farm is unlimited.

  2. This is solo queue and you can't control your team.

AyRe CoNteMpT2 votes
  1. rengar is not some kind of magic that just appears out of nowhere. there is a starting point to his ultimate and a distance he can travel. all this gives plenty counterplay to him. you can also activate your red sweeper and "reveal" him with that even tho it only shows you the sillhouette. it still gives you more options of positioning and reacting.

  2. you sure cant but so cant rengar. if he engages into a somewhat grouped team and kills one person, he will most likely instantly die if his team doesnt follow up really fast and strong. sure he might take out some non-fed carry but trade his own life for it, thats not worth it. the biggest problem aint that rengar is very strong in teamfights, its that some retard always has to go and quickly farm these 5 minions coming his way and that his person is MOSTLY the adc who completely disrespects rengar. if you let a strong splitpusher do it, rengar cant assassinate him.

send jax, send fiora, send shyvana, send garen, send darius, send renekton. they cant be assassinated by him, they are fucking immune to it and much stronger than him. if he jumps, he will die. this is why rengar feels so strong - because he kills retards super easy. like literally dying to a rengar assassination on a sidelane proves that you are a stupid person. you cant change that. if you are stupid yourself, all you can do is accept it and if your team is stupid, all you can do is, again, accept it.

  1. lets theorize and say you have a jungler too, which is rare in soloQ: its actually not a junglers job to gank lanes ever. a junglers job is the same as everyone elses job - control his lane. rengar has weaknesses and if your jungler knows them and realizes that he has to control rengar, then he will focus on doing that and make him alot less threatening.

TL;DR - l2p and rengar aint a problem anymore.

JinxMon1 votes

nerf the hell out of him.. press R and insta kill .. really ??? and ad as well as ap ?? really ??? he doesnt need stealth to 1 shot u these trinkets and pinks blabla bla ...

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