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WTF RIOT! ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ALL THE LOW ELO PLAYERS QUIT!? RANKING ISSUES

TimerClock··3 votes·659 views

Hey everyone!

I hope everyone is feeling great. As we all know, the new season began! I was so glad to finally reset my current rank, which was Silver 5. I did my placements and went 7-3 with some carries and bad games, which I lost. And the final moment came! BRONZE 5? I would have understood a Bronze 2 limit 3, but that's a insult to all the hours I've invested! And what about my placement games? Why even bothering doing them if I'm starting there anyways? I would have rather gotten B5 and grinded straight away with those 10 games. Getting out of there the first time was hard enough, but now I'm sent back to the rock bottom again!? I don't feel like it's a fair system. I played some very good games that weren't of bronze caliber. I'm super frustrated because this means all the progress I did is now lost? I mean, people in general are tired of this crap! Afterwards, RIOT complains about boosters.... well this is mostly why they exist... Even though you play well, the ranking system doesn't allow you to climb properly! And I'm sure that plenty of people feel the same way! PLEASE, FIX IT! Don't forget to give a thumbs up to this topic if you feel the same way!

PS : Sorry if this post sounds aggressive, I just finished my placements.

By a very frustrated players that feels betrayed by a game he loved and spent way too much time on,

TimerClock

22 Comments

ModKnightsKemplar3 votes

So... there's a huge misconception about promos that it's supposed to grant you something ANYWHERE CLOSE to your real rank.

It's not supposed to do that. It's supposed to lower you. A lot. So you have to climb to your "real" rank. That's the whole idea behind the ranked system.

l Helios l1 votes

It's kind of weird though tbh. I had a friend who just finished his. He was G4 before he finished, went 5 - 5, and now he's G5. I don't really understand how this entirely makes sense. I'm not complaining about the system, I don't really care tbh. I just think it appears very strange to many people because they just don't get how MMR and the rank reset works.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Right. It's complicated for a reason, though. If Riot told us the exact algorithms, then people would focus on gaming the system instead of playing the game.

l Helios l1 votes

That's probably fair to say. I guess there's a downside to both sides and we just go with what has worked for X amount of time.

TimerClock1 votes

Yeah, but why do placement games then? They are worthless in the end for us if we start at the bottom. Just give me Bronze 5 instead of making me waste my time during 10 games...

Pantheon Forever1 votes

Was your friend all like?

http://www.lolhome.com/img_big/arab-money.png

l Helios l1 votes

All the time. I still trash him in 1v1s so it's no big deal. He deserved gold imo

Mig891 votes

Your rank does not reflect your mmr. your mmr can be a lot higher than where you truly are because of things like winning all of your games and losing promos, dodging, and im sure there are other cases.

TimerClock1 votes

Yeah, but why do placement games then? They are worthless in the end for us if we start at the bottom. Just give me Bronze 5 instead of making me waste my time during 10 games...

Mig891 votes

Not everyone starts bronze 5 normally. you lose some mmr then get placed off your mmr after ten games

TimerClock1 votes

Yeah, but why do placement games then? They are worthless in the end for us if we start at the bottom. Just give me Bronze 5 instead of making me waste my time during 10 games...

ModKnightsKemplar2 votes

I mean... it's only a waste of time if you don't like playing the game... lol.

I don't get why people are upset about it. It's only a disadvantage to your rank if you're the only person who has to do it, and you aren't. Everyone does. So... you play some more League before you find out. Not a waste of time.

TimerClock1 votes

I like when the game means something lol that was just games that told me I had to start over.... Feels a little silly to me :')

Weathered1 votes

It's called a reset for a reason. Higher ELO players can get set back multiple entire tiers.

TimerClock1 votes

I know the reset is supposed to set you behind in your rank, but let's be realistic here... Seriously, bronze is hard enough as it is because you have to carry all the games yourself. I had to play a lot of games to get out, I wasn't good and to be honest, I deserved my bronze rank. Now, I just feel like it's a tidious process that you always need to do. Wouldn't it be more encouraging for low elo players to not start from the rock bottom again?

Stephenizgod1 votes

Hint: Climb

TimerClock1 votes

Ah Ah! That makes sense! Seriously... We all know it's called Elo Hell for a reason. I just find the concept of placements irrelevant....

Stephenizgod1 votes

Not really, they place you lower on purpose, in your case that meant Bronze 5 but if you don't like being placed Bronze 5, climb out of it and do better this season.

hidezitsme1 votes

i understand what cyano is saying about it setting you way lower than your previous rank. However, why is it sending someone back to their league (the gold example above) if you're going to send challenger, master, diamond, platinum players back a whole league if not multiple in some cases, and everyone in bronze is silver is automatically sent back at least a league, one would think that no specific leagues would get preferential treatment.... also to even it out even more it should be placing into 5th and 1st divisions. for example: someone who was platinum 2 or higher should be place in G1 whereas plat 4, 5, and golds 1 and 2 get placed at G5 etc.(provided they do well in placements, if they dont they go lower.) because if placements do affect mmr and then macthes afterward obviously will, the current system will lower some players mmr's unfairly for getting matched against people they should not be getting matched against. challenger, master, and diamond, i dont know what to say for them. Theres no way to place them lower without unfair matches

Très Pauvre1 votes

The reason that gold player probably got placed back in gold was their mmr was significantly higher than where they were. Probably won a significant string of games that set their mmr super high and even with the losses if you place at an mmr of high gold or plat the placement should put you around low gold... right?

TimerClock1 votes

They should tell players what their mmr is... It would be more motivating and you would actually know why you're placed there, which would remove all this frustration and this post lol

Ravenhale1 votes

It was my understanding that an MMR reset is performed at the start of a new season. They take your current MMR, halve it, and then add 600. That defines your new season rank more than 10 games that may swing your MMR a little. "Placements" are more for new players who all start out with the Default 1200 MMR which I believe is Silver V MMR.

After initial placement, LP is used to gain ranks instead of MMR. If MMR was used, some people would never get out of Bronze.

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