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Ranking System - Rotten to the Core

TimerClock··2 votes·437 views

Dear RIOT company,

I'm writing here today to express some of my feelings towards the current ranking system. It might sound like a ''hater'' mail, but I think this needs to be said.

First of all, it's worth noticing that I'm a Bronze player(Yeah, that doesn't start well and it removes some credibility), but it's not like I haven't tried to get out of it. I have been playing more than 5 hours a day for about a week now (All ranked games, mostly SoloQ) because I was sick of being in this league and during that week, I improved a lot. I also noticed this. If you're in it, you're screwed. There are so much ''trolls'', people that are trying new champions and people that just go AFK. For players like me that try hard, it's a struggle and, in the end, it also makes us quit the game because, let's be honest, it's taxing a lot psychologically. You've recently tried to improve your ranking system to make it more fair (Which failed...), but I don't get how it is so hard to do! Here's a sample of what I would propose.

NEW RANKING SYSTEM FOR LOW LEAGUES (Bronze, Silver & Gold) :

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  1. The teams would be based on the mastery level of the champions the players mostly play and / or the total masteries on each champions that they own. This would eliminate a lot of ''trolls'' and the players that want to really play rank and move up in the ladder would have a chance to do it.

  2. The teams could take in consideration the number of wins (combining all the game modes) the players have. People that would play a lot would get matched with veterans like them.

  3. If a player gets reported by his team for AFK'ing or intentionnal feeding, he would be fined by being forced to play in Normal for X games that could keep increasing with the number of offenses (e.g. 5, 10, 15 etc.) before he could play in Ranked again.

  4. The winning streaks should also be taken in account. If a player is trying super hard and managed to get 3 wins in a row, he should be matched with players that are also in winning streaks (if they are available of course!).

I hope the community doesn't reject the idea.

From a frustrated bronze player that tries hard... TimerClock

21 Comments

Eedat3 votes

Matching people on champion level is pretty ridiculous. Champion level does not reflect the performance on the champion. People just have to grind enough to get those levels.

For example, a bronze mastery level 5 champion stop will not perform as well as a diamond player who has played the same champion twice

TimerClock1 votes

First of all, thanks for the reply! I know it doesn't, and I think you understood my proposition wrong. Bronze players would still be matched with Bronze players, but the masteries would influence the teams they are matched with.

Eedat1 votes

Ok, im not sure you understood:

A) Mastery level does not reflect performance in any way on the champion

B) How is it going to match you by the rank of the champion you pick when you don't pick the champion until after you've been matched?

C) Someone with 1 million mastery points can still be level 5 if they dont spend the blue essence to upgrade it

TimerClock1 votes

That's all true, but at least, you know he has played that champion. Let's not deny the fact that someone that has Mastery 7 champions will be better than someone who decided to try the champion (In most cases). For the B), that's why I added the total number of masteries to be accounted. If a player played a lot, he will mostlikely be better.

Eedat1 votes

Thats just not true. Again, Mastery level has absolutely nothing to do with performance. You can lose literally every single game on a champ and still get to level 5

TimerClock1 votes

That's why I mentionned exceptions... If you're dedicated to your champions, in most cases, you'll be better!

LateCustomer1 votes

{quoted}

First of all, thanks for the reply! I know it doesn't, and I think you understood my proposition wrong. Bronze players would still be matched with Bronze players, but the masteries would influence the teams they are matched with.

Champion Mastery is irrelevant. I mean, how would the game know that the champion I'm Mastery Level 7 at is the one I'm going to use? That's IF that even mattered.

No, the only thing that matters is your win/loss.

TimerClock1 votes

That's why I mentionned my other point, which would count the total masteries on every champions you own. If you have alot, it means you played a lot and, in most cases, means you're more experienced (With exceptions of course).

LateCustomer1 votes

{quoted}

That's why I mentionned my other point, which would count the total masteries on every champions you own. If you have alot, it means you played a lot and, in most cases, means you're more experienced (With exceptions of course).

I have a friend in bronze who has about three times the mastery levels I do. I'm pretty sure mastery level is a poor indication of a player's ability.

TimerClock1 votes

It's a case to case thing I'll give you that! But generally, if you're mastery level is high, you'll be better than someone else in the same league as you that tries the same champion.

TimerClock1 votes

PS. : I'm not blaming the teammates I play with (I can get some really good ones at times and it's super fun to play!), but I'm pointing the fact it's common to be matched with players that just quit during the game if they're mad or that they will just intentionally feed the enemy team if they didn't get the lane they wanted...

LateCustomer2 votes

{quoted}

PS. : I'm not blaming the teammates I play with (I can get some really good ones at times and it's super fun to play!), but I'm pointing the fact it's common to be matched with players that just quit during the game if they're mad or that they will just intentionally feed the enemy team if they didn't get the lane they wanted...

I don't think a change is really necessary. I mean...

I know this is "broken record" territory, but, assuming you don't troll and do try hard every game, your enemy team has a higher chance of getting trolls than you do... so as long as you play consistently well enough (silver-ish or better) to climb out of bronze, you WILL get out of bronze.

TimerClock1 votes

Yeah, but the issue is that as soon as you climb, you get a series of games you wish you had never played. That's what's really hard. You can win 3 in a row, then lose 3 in a row, even though you did your best. That's why people started using Boosters...

LateCustomer1 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, but the issue is that as soon as you climb, you get a series of games you wish you had never played. That's what's really hard. You can win 3 in a row, then lose 3 in a row, even though you did your best. That's why people started using Boosters...

I've only played about 70 games of ranked this season, and I've already had a couple of streaks of like 4 loses in a row. It happens. Just keep at it and things balance out.

TimerClock1 votes

I'm up to 125 I think and I only went from Bronze 5 to Bronze 3 because of the issue I pointed out. I'm already playing a lot and I'm honestly not sure on how to improve further (I watched gameplays etc.) to help the teams I play with, but yeah, I do get the point you're making.

Demon King Maou1 votes

I got outta bronze ( I was placed as bronze 4 because I supported during my ranking matches ) as a support solo queing Theres absolutely nothing wrong with the ranking system except it matching you with the odd " 0/10/0 every game player " just work hard and you'll eventually get to silver

In silver its a little harder so I gave up and started duo queing but since we don't have a full team you occasionally get the odd " 0/10/0 player " even then its not that bad you lose a game and just move on if you cant climb maybe you're playing the wrong role? or playing champions you don't enjoy using I find climbing is easier when I play something I enjoy rather then Counterpicking the enemy team

TimerClock1 votes

Indeed! And I'm climbing, it's just that I've reached pretty much the maximum time I can play a day (I don't intend to be a pro afterall!). I feel like it's a bit extreme that I have to play around midnight because folks tell me that that's when the ''tryhards'' play and want to win. It shouldn't be that way...

Anatharion1 votes

Great suggestions. But part of 1. Should be performance based as well as skill level on champ. So that someone with 100 yasuo games who stomps 78% isn't forced to play with someone with 100 Ahri games but has a 48% win rate.

TimerClock1 votes

True! Thanks for the reply!

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

As being on the outside (that is, not interested in Ranked) the only real observable problem I've seen is that people smurf, so the way games play out becomes very difficult to record meaningfully.

That being said, actually doing something for reports would be nice for sure.

TimerClock1 votes

Yeah that's true! If I speak for myself though, I actually enjoy playing against smurfs! It makes me get better! I'd rather see it that way then see it like some of my teammates that just FF at 20...

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