@meddler can we nerf Alister and Malphite

They may not be bursting champion into dust, but at what point is being so hard core tank appropriate that they can literally walk into a 5v1 and get out fairly easily. On top of that, go ap on either of them and they do a shit ton of damage. i remember laughing at the idea of ap alistar mid, until he knocked me back, taking half my hp with him. I am sick of these two never being looked at because they are not getting the kills. There is a level of support and tank that is too much. Alister needs major nerfs to his knock backs, meaning like 100+ cooldowns not 10 second cooldowns.