Dear tank players, in regards to your build.

SpecterVonBaren·Aug 16, 2017·2 votes·428 views

Are you going top lane on Summoners Rift?

This is a pretty good item then. Can help you with wave clear and some hp for durability.

Are you a tank that's in the jungle or support or playing any rotating game mode or ARAM? Don't EVER build . It is no longer a combat item, it's a pure farming tool for tanks with some defensive stats. If you're just about protecting someone or initiating for your team then any other armor item, even THIS thing is better to build than Sunfire Cape. If you want an armor item with damage then get , but update your tank knowledge please.

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Dale WardarkAug 16, 20172 votes

At this point I'd rather them remove the damage from Sunfire VS Champions and make it minion only. It's ass useless in top lane when you're trying to take they're tower with then there because they just walk into its range and the tower instantly agros you.

PopcornBunniAug 16, 20171 votes

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At this point I'd rather them remove the damage from Sunfire VS Champions and make it minion only. It's ass useless in top lane when you're trying to take they're tower with then there because they just walk into its range and the tower instantly agros you.

I'd be down with this if its health was increased to 450 to offset the effectiveness it lost vs physical.

InfernapeAug 16, 20171 votes

Or make it a toggle.

PopcornBunniAug 16, 20171 votes

item 3068 and item 3742 still offer the most effective health against physical damage even after their nerfs- 680 effective health from 750. You don't build it for its damage primarily, but item 3025 offers a paltry amount of defensive value in comparison.

Not that defense matters with item 3071 in its current state.

deadlychuckAug 16, 20172 votes

I think you mean

Not that defense matters with ~~in its current state~~.

SpecterVonBarenAug 16, 20171 votes

Then they should build DMP? As you said, they give the best effective health but DMP has value outside of its stats in a mode like ARAM or Ascension (Outside of that new exploit) with the movespeed and slow on using an auto attack. Sunfire used to be for damage against champs and for farming but now its just for farming outside of its stats.

The point of me talking about Iceborn is that what OTHER reason could you possibly have for building Sunfire when you're with four other people to help you clear waves or on a map with no minions? Damage is the only reason for them to build it instead of DMP but the damage doesn't even outpace health regen. Iceborn gives more damage, CDR and mana for more spell uptime which also means more damage, and some armor. If a tank wants an armor item that also gives damage then Iceborn is what you get. If you just want to tank and don't care about damage then there's no reason to build Sunfire over DMP or another health+armor item.

waiting for WoWAug 16, 20171 votes

Man you are a genius

I did not know that tanks only build sunfire cape for waveclear thank you shenpai so wise

SpecterVonBarenAug 16, 20171 votes

Did you completely miss the hubub over the Ascension exploit? People building pure tank with Sunfire and keeping the enemy team from capping points with the Sunfire damage but never killing them because Sunfire's damage can't even outpace their health regen? You don't get it for champion damage ever since the changes to it.

waiting for WoWAug 16, 20171 votes

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Did you completely miss the hubub over the Ascension exploit? People building pure tank with Sunfire and keeping the enemy team from capping points with the Sunfire damage but never killing them because Sunfire's damage can't even outpace their health regen? You don't get it for champion damage ever since the changes to it.

I see you have trouble detecting sarcasm

SpecterVonBarenAug 16, 20171 votes

I detected the sarcasm, the sarcasm means you think I'm an idiot that doesn't see the other reason for building Sunfire, which there isn't one anymore. If you're talking stats then build DMP, it has the same stats and a passive that's actually useful on a map with either four other people to help with waveclear or if you're on a map with no minions.