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Quinn needs nerfs. A side from all the other adcs Lethality abusers

Gamer Gallade··7 votes·1,319 views

We can say Quinn is one of the few champions that shows how dumb Adc's can abuse item 3134 line right now.

A side from Quinn that abuse it. We have a problem with Jungle that is also an ADC user. Graves

Not only that, Jhin that can one shot tanks (FUCKING TANKS)

And Quinn is right now the Top laner's worse nightmare because of how too good her kit is.

She might not need a damage nerf, the problem is her roaming power and how short her Ult cool down is.(3 fucking seconds with a 2 second channel that totals for 5 seconds to watch out and that is just retarded as hell.)

Damage aside, She is fine enough but its her movement speed on her ult is making her the nightmare to face because the moment she recalls, you have to warn your other laners because she will gank them until its too late for them to react.

Her movement speed from her ult is insane. It Gives 70/100/130% movement speed, no other Item or any other ult can give amount of movement speed in the game.

Riot, Please nerf her for the sake of the game and she has a good chance to be pick or ban in the up coming patch.

8 Comments

Taliyahc4 votes

As Phylol one of my favorite league youtubers said

She was already really good but these lethality changes pushed her over the edge. I think even after the lethality nerfs (FINALLY!!!) she still needs some toning down

I like her playstyle and I hope riot doesn't nerf her too bad just some light nerfs to quinn along with lethality nerfs should put her back to normal

Muzét3 votes

Imo yeah she needs to be toned down. But not on her damage but on her mana cost. She got one of the lowest mana pool as an adc but her spells are kinda "forgiven". She should at least have higher mana cost which are reduced by leveling them. (Just like her ult which costs 100 at level 1 and 0 once maxed out)

NichtHurz1 votes

Quinn is busted right now, period. This is also why I abuse her and why I am quite successful with her.

BUT actually I think Quinn is one of the few legit ranged lethality users, since she really isn't an adc. She can somewhat work as an adc, but it's not her role in the game and I'd be fine with her using lethality since she feels like more of an assassin than a real adc. Lethality needs adjustments and should be abused as hard by this many ranged champs, but I still believe that Quinn should use lethality, since classic adc builds are just not right for her kit.

Gamer Gallade1 votes

Yeah Lethality is almost needed for Quinn, but the main problem is other champions that also abuse it like MissFortune Varus Lucian. The examples i mentioned are actual ADCs. worst case senario is they change Lethality into Melee only or some penalty for ranged champs that will mostly shit on Quinn because of some changes like that.

So its hard to say what could happen to Quinn and Lethality.

They main problem i see in her is her ult and someone pointed out that they should raise her mana costs(which i will agree on it if we want Quinn to make her trade power more of an impact.)

NichtHurz2 votes

I feel like her mana costs at lvl 6 are more or less okay. It's getting really problematic once her ult costs only 50 mana. This is the point where you can just roam 24/7 and switch your ult on and off without any real penalty.

Tough topic. For me Quinn and possibly Varus are the only ranged ad's (sorry not counting in Urgot) who should use Lethality, with MF and Lucian it's just getting really stupid.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Gallade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rvTaIrEj,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-20T04:02:21.683+0000)

Her movement speed from her ult is insane. It Gives 70/100/130% movement speed, no other Item or any other ult can give amount of movement speed in the game.

Hecarim E: Non ultimate that gives up to 75% bonus movement speed

Rammus Q: Non ultimate that gives up to 140% bonus movement speed

(I understand this is bonus vs total and not a permanent increase after cast, but these champions also have ultimates and stronger kits in general).

Further, and most importantly, you can force Quinn out of her ultimate by hitting her with any damage or CC. Tilts me so much when my Varus feeds a kill to the enemy fed Quinn every time she dives straight at him - send a skillshot at her and she loses her ultimate (along with the 1*total ad bonus damage from skystrike, which makes her burst unable to kill you unless she's insanely fed).

Quinn was only strong because of her favorable matchups against strong and popular top laners (most notably Darius who was rising towards ~55% win rate in diamond+ and had an absurdly high pick rate too). Her favorable matchups are also typically extremely favorable, however her not-favorable matchups are typically slightly her disadvantage in lane but scaling to her being extremely weaker late (meaning that a better Quinn player than her lane opponent would get a lead and not let it go late, whereas a better Darius couldn't stay even early [although he'd be fine if he just gave up CS and didn't feed]).

sobi9991 votes

Not kidding, Teemo item 3146 against quinn top. Ez peazy. Just avoid her fkn bird. Unlike Vayne Gnar and etc she has damage steroid per hit in her passive thus she is more able to burst faster. With lethality and her insane MS this is just dumb af. The others are good against tanks and quinn's passive is good against squishes.

Ahristocats1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Gallade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rvTaIrEj,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-20T04:02:21.683+0000)

Not only that, Jhin that can one shot tanks (FUCKING TANKS)

xd board is so retarded

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