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More Lv1 ganks, Lv1 cheese and Lv1 frustrating bullshit? Please, Riot.

Inari Fox Orrion··3 votes·2,112 views

Keep buffing the value of an early-game snowball lead so that people have their lanes decided by who manages to do the stupidest, cheesiest bullshit because vision is so scarce that there's just no way to see some of it coming, sometimes, no matter how cautious you are. You can be Lv1 dived, you can be Lv1 one-shot, you can be Lv1 CC-locked and killed instantly, and... you know, the reason people didn't Lv1 cheese all that much before was because it was not worth it, you know? If you Lv1 cheesed, the team lost CS equal to the gold they got from the kill.

Here's the problem... The game's now decided by Lv1 cheese because of how much that gold lead is worth, if their team is even remotely competent. If you start on the Blue/Lower side, guess what: you're in a position that's so much easier to cheese, from tower or from jungle (which the jungler does need, you know, so you can't "play safe" at base forever.) That'd be perfectly okay... if you had any fucking clue why the gold lead for cheesing someone was worth so little, you dim shits. Nah, you didn't, and so you upped the gold given without any foresight. You're so blind I'm sure Lee Sin is proud, unable to see that obvious and problematic truck of an issue headed at you at 50MPH.

Good for you. You've made a game completely, 100% reliant on luck and devoid of any and all strategy.

13 Comments

BigFBear2 votes

These "cheese" called tactic and strategy and is part of the game.

And if you play with brain you can conter and/or outplay every lvl 1 cheese tactic.

For example ward both Scuttles around 1:20 and you can read so much what the enemy Jungler will do in the next 2 minutes.

taleofsonata1 votes

Someone got level 2 gank by a jungler with red buff...

Inari Fox Orrion2 votes

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Someone got level 2 gank by a jungler with red buff...

and their support and their top and their ADC and their mid, and they all flashed to feed the ADC the kill. Guess what: the ADC was impossible to lane against because she flat-out out-damaged me and my own ADC at the same time because of that lead. Do you know that she had a support too?

The point is that the gold lead given by cheesy Lv1 B.S was so minuscule because it was cheesy bullshit and not a legitimate strategy, because if it was it'd outrank every other strategy and people would do anything for that one kill to feed their ADC. Guess what people do now on a consistent basis? Games are now almost guaranteed to be decided in favor of whoever feeds the ADC or enemy carry first blood through a cheese kill, because on top of the gold for the ADC or carry they also have gold for the entire rest of the team now.

Also, it wasn't a Lv2 gank. It was a Lv1 cheese strategy where people abuse the fact vision is now so scarce because at start you can have at max two wards out at the same time. What, do I stay under tower and let my ADC and Jungler flame me for not leashing or supporting? Seems kinda' boring and devoid of actual strategy and thought, you know?

BigFBear1 votes

Why not tell us this mighty lvl 1 cheese? Pls don't say it was the 2 man waiting in botlane tri-bush while you leashing red.

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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Why not tell us this mighty lvl 1 cheese? Pls don't say it was the 2 man waiting in botlane tri-bush while you leashing red.

5 man splitting and flash+scissoring the jungler and their helpers.

BigFBear1 votes

Sounds creative. Don't you think such an interesting move should be rewarded?

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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Sounds creative. Don't you think such an interesting move should be rewarded?

Not even close, because it's something people saw on a stream and now mimic. It's nothing that required them to think, and it's nothing they came up with on their own either.

They also shouldn't be rewarded with an automatic free win.

BigFBear1 votes

Well its common to adapt strats and tactics from other people...

Also you pretend you can't counter this tactic. When its such an ez win with it, why dont you do it every game yourself? I mean, i would do it every game if its so promising. But i doubt it is that easy. I guess you guys just fucked up.

Just admit that they outplayed you.

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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Well its common to adapt strats and tactics from other people...

Also you pretend you can't counter this tactic. When its such an ez win with it, why dont you do it every game yourself? I mean, i would do it every game if its so promising. But i doubt it is that easy. I guess you guys just fucked up.

Just admit that they outplayed you.

Flashing over a wall and stunning someone isn't an outplay when there's no way to see it coming. That's kinda' the idea behind the complaint. I don't do it because it feels cheesy and lacks any actual thought behind it -- oh, and because a lot of the time the rest of my team is uncooperative when I say "Hey yeah, we have great Lv1 CC so lets kill them!"

Sorry, but some tactics are just cheese for the win. Remember pick-or-ban Kassawin? Same thing. The only barrier is communication. That's it.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Someone got level 2 gank by a jungler with red buff...

That’s the default play pattern now sooooo

Handy Sandy 1 votes

yeah but who falls for lvl 1 cheese

Average Ahri1 votes

Get good. Honestly.... once u know how t wave control ur fine.

lilpokfluf1 votes

I get it's frustrating but you can stop these from happening yourself. Place a ward in the tri bush bot side and sit outside the entrance to river far away from the bush but close enough you can see and you'll stop these invades 90% of the time by yourself

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