"Jhin has strong and clear weaknesses"

Unreformed Shaco·Feb 23, 2017·2 votes·858 views

I don't ADC very often, but I keep hearing this statement.

Anyone care to further elaborate?

He doesn't have low range, his skills hit harder than most marksmen, his autos hit harder than most marksmen..

I rarely see them lose trades because his damage combo has decent range, click to target and no delay.

Doesn't really have an issue with melee that I see, permanent ghost from passive makes that easy.

combine this with the fact he doesnt even enter a fight, he just ults the squishies 100-0 and then cleans up... what is this apparent weakness?

Add the stupid abusal of lethality to the mix and you have a canerous growth on the champ roster.

EDIT: Not a QQ.. Legimate question..

20 Comments

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 23, 20176 votes

Hmmm. Have you tried hitting him? He usually dies from that.

More seriously, unlike a lot of ADCs, he has no instant CC. He has to set his up.

Therefore if you flank him and jump on him, he's toast.

Unreformed ShacoFeb 23, 20172 votes

But that isn't an issue when you have someone like Thresh sitting next to you permanently..

Unlike a lot of ADCS?

Corki, Ezreal, Caitlyn, Draven, Graves, Jinx, Kogmaw, Lucian, MF,Sivir, Twitch have no instant (hard) CC

Of the remaining 7, Ashe, Varus, Kalista, Tristana use their ultimate, Vayne needs a wall.

Most marksmen don't have CC. That isn't exactly a weakness.

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 23, 20173 votes

Like Rubick said, all of his long range skills can be bodyblocked.

And if he tries to be cute and only contribute to a teamfight via ult from miles away, collapse on his team 4v5 and murder them.

GeauxxFeb 23, 20171 votes

Takes time to charge/land cc
him ulting will make him a sitting duck to whoever
his reload mechanic also makes him a sitting duck.
it takes the 4th shot to get the movement speed passive, or have spent a decent amount of time ingame to get crit chance item to only give him a better chance for more movement speed( not garunteed unless you get 100%)
squishy like all other adcs
You cant use the saying that the support keeps him safe because that argument is valid with all adcs/whatever is being used in botlane/

There's a couple more but no point in saying, i think you get the point by now.

Hexs FortuneFeb 23, 20175 votes

Weak to aggressiver divers, but his play pattern doesn't usually open him up to them.

Jhin can stay out of auto attack range and be productive, unlike most adc

AhristocatsFeb 23, 20173 votes

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He doesn't have low range, his skills hit harder than most marksmen, his autos hit harder than most marksmen..

spells can't go through targets, and have long cd His autos don't hit harder than most marksmen, his 4th yes but not the 3 others

{quoted} I rarely see them lose trades because his damage combo has decent range, click to target and no delay.

Oh jhin can definitly loses trade depending on which marksmen he is fighting, and depending on how many bullets he used on minions Vayne for instance can't lose against jhin, because she will just wait until he uses 3 hits on minions, then all in him and if jhin uses 4th hit and run she chases him with passive+Q

{quoted} Doesn't really have an issue with melee that I see, permanent ghost from passive makes that easy.

lethality jhin doesn't have this

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combine this with the fact he doesnt even enter a fight, he just ults the squishies 100-0 and then cleans up... what is this apparent weakness?

ulti doesn't go through targets, can be dodged and slow duration has been nerfed +he can't 100-0 someone with ulti

Unreformed ShacoFeb 23, 20172 votes

His autos don't hit harder than most marksmen, his 4th yes but not the 3 others

When you get free AD, yeah.. they kinda do.

Oh jhin can definitly loses trade depending on which marksmen he is fighting, and depending on how many bullets he used on minions

I rarely see them lose the trade, especially early. His 'weakness' is low attack speed, but early game everyone has low attack speed and he jut weaves grenade in between 3rd and 4th.

lethality jhin doesn't have this

Ghostblade movespeed helps. Swiftness boots help.

AhristocatsFeb 23, 20173 votes

it's not "free ad" when he loses attack speed, and lethality jhin doesn't have a high crit chance, which explains why any crit adc can expload him in 1v1

then he loses trade in early game because of his reloading time and third, ghostblade movement speed helps but is less powerfull than whipser bonus ms because it has a cd

https://youtu.be/pFnCKr729J4?t=49

go to 0:50 and see by yourself, i chased him and forced him to use youmu i disengaged and dodged his W

then he couldn't do anything

Unreformed ShacoFeb 23, 20171 votes

The solo marksman lost a 1v1 to a juggernaut? Unheard of!

Throw a thresh in there and see how far you ge.t

AhristocatsFeb 23, 20172 votes

they threw a lee sin, and it didn't work

"solo marksman losing to juggernaut" so every marksmen would lose to juggernaut in 1v1? don't make me laugh

i explained to you why lethality jhin doesn't make people cry, because he can't kit well ,even if youmu i showed you an example and you tell me that the example doesn't work

kek

Unreformed ShacoFeb 23, 20171 votes

Juggernauts were designed to kill marksmen...

AhristocatsFeb 23, 20171 votes

Caitlyn Ezreal KogMaw Vayne will all destroy darius Kog will put his slow path in front of him and then shred darius so fast while having 700 range

MaeDoSanFeb 23, 20171 votes

Wtf is this video even , look at his health when the fight starts , that jhin was retarded , we don't even know how fed jhin / darius were

AhristocatsFeb 23, 20171 votes

because i chased him with deadman+hooked him+was killing him and then he used yoummu to escape and disengage and yes unfortunatly i can't prove anything with that video since we don't know the difference in gold

maybe the fact that he's lvl 13 as a duolaner while i'm 14 as a solo laner should tell you something

but i posted this video because he said "lol youmu jhin too much movement speed" and showed that while it's true it can't be used everytime

VivaLaKittenFeb 23, 20172 votes

his only escape is flash unless he stands still for a bit to shoot you then a bit longer to snare you, and that isn't the easiest thing to land also LeeSin Teemo Fizz Khazix Rengar Talon Ahri

oh wait I better stop or I will list every mage and assassin in the game

Unreformed ShacoFeb 23, 20171 votes

That is the same for every marksman, I am after Jhins weakness.

"Duh, Batman's weakness is so obvious.. He is a human and so he can die, so just kill him"

RalanrFeb 23, 20172 votes

In dueling other marksmen, Jhin has a much slower attack speed that despite its damage can be abused easily with vision tricks. Fighting high dps marksmen on equal grounds usually ends with him dead because he can't mitigate their damage or out damage them fast enough.

At least imo.

Meep ManFeb 23, 20171 votes

Jhin's passive is both his strength and weakness. He stinks at normal Marksman DPS.

JoxcabFeb 23, 20171 votes

Jhin QQ

fuffychanFeb 23, 20171 votes

As an ADC main, Ill tell you hes the most broken Ive ever seen. Got him in aram and was blowing dudes up with limited items when it takes other ADCs 3 items to deal any significant damage. He doesnt need a slow on his ult or any cc at all.