Riot claims to have increased the power of Shaco's passive

TequilaZombie··4 votes·504 views

So, Shrive (a Rioter) has posted in the PBE the following regarding Shaco's changes: http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/auEY7jEU-assassins-mini-updates-discussion

>Early game abuse reduced, tricks increased while providing more playmaking and teamfighting options in the late game Backstab (Passive) has a cooldown, but provides a greater effect Shaco's Deceive (Q) duration starts small and scales with rank Shaco can place Jack in the Boxes (W) while Invisible, briefly revealing him

But there is one thing that is not true.

>Backstab (Passive) has a cooldown, but provides a greater effect

Considering the context of Shaco changes, the new passive does not even comes close to being stronger. Do the math. It's weaker.

Q+Passive

At base AD (117):

NEW: Q: 80 base + 99,5 = 179,5 With Passive: 260,3 With IE crit multiplier: 350

LIVE: Q: 117 * 2,2 = 257 With Passive: 308,8 With IE crit multiplier: 379,8

At 300 AD (117 base + 183 bonus):

NEW: Q: 80 base + 255 = 335 With Passive: 485,75 With IE crit multiplier: 653,3

LIVE: Q: 300 * 2,2 = 660 With Passive: 792 With IE crit multiplier: 972

item 3087 Damage in previous combos:

NEW: Damage: 120 * 1,45 = 174 With IE crit multiplier: 234

LIVE: Damage: 120 * 2,2 = 264 With IE crit multiplier: 324

TOTAL DAMAGE OF Q+P+SS:

At base AD:

NEW: 434

LIVE: 572

Witt more AD, the difference becomes even bigger.

8 Comments

Weathered1 votes

You completely missed how it does extra damage to minions, drastically increasing clear times.

Big Lincoln3 votes

yeah, shaco might be shit now, but at least he can assassinate those jungle camps xd

Weathered1 votes

I have both 300k points on Shaco and a PBE account. He's not shit at all.

TequilaZombie2 votes

So let's nerf Lane Shaco AND Late Game Shaco just because Early Game Jungle Shaco is having some nice ganks?

Big Lincoln2 votes

I have a PBE account too

the loss in damage is pretty ridiculous considering rework Rengar and Kat

Gookkake1 votes

Does the damn Passive Scale with like an Ashe Passive or only with the 50% from IE nobody ever answers that sht cause if it scales like an Ashe Passive i can actually see that the passive might be better lategame.

TequilaZombie2 votes

It starts dealing 120% crit damage at level 1 and deals 145% crit damage at level 18. It's increased by Crit Damage runes and IE.

Unless you're running crit damage runes, it's worse than an actual crit through the entire game. Even if running crit chance, it won't make that much better.

Gookkake1 votes

So it does not Scale in damage with Critchance like Ashe passive in that case they really fked up. From what i have seen if they would add that little detail to make the Passive actually good lategame Shaco should be fine with the other Abilities.

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