"I shouldn't be banned for telling the troll to kill itself! I just want justice!"

TequilaZombie··49 votes·2,461 views

We've all heard this argument in the boards before. Someone has a troll in their team and think that by flamming the troll they are getting justice. Soon enough, the inevitable analogy comes up: "The best way to stop a bully is to stand up to him".

However, those people (who are probably new to the internet) fail to grasp the difference between a real life bully and an internet troll. For all of those making this confusion heres a quick guide:

In real life you can punch a bully in the face. Nobody wants to be punched in the face.

In the game, you can only argue with the troll. That's EXACTLY what the troll wants.

The troll is not going to be offended by anything you say. You can get really creative with your offenses, he will just laugh it off while giving another kill to the already fed Jinx. There is an old internet rule that if you're not familiar with, you should be: DON'T FEED THE TROLL. A troll wants to create a negative reaction. By fighting him, you're giving him exactly what he wants.

"So what should I do?

Mute, shrug it off, report, move on. There is literally nothing else to be done that will have a positive impact.

Focus on the other 3 people on your team. Make coordinated plays. Learn to split push and bait objectives. If your comp allows it, make isolated picks. It's hard as fuck, but a game with a troll is actually manageable, at least in low ELO.

"But I wunna serve justise!1!"

As sad as it may sound, besides reporting, there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO. The very nature of an online game ensures that the troll will win if you play his game (at least until we get an option to slap people in the face via internet). A troll's goal is to have you respond in a negative way to him. If your idea of justice is talking shit to the troll, you're feeding him exactly what he needs. You give him a double win: he gets to ruin your game AND your day at the same time. Not only that, but you show him that what he is doing works, inciting him to do it again on his next games.

By changing your attitude towards a troll you might not only have more enjoyable games yourself, you're also reducing the odds of him trolling other players, as he will gradually see that he doesn't get the reactions he wants. And as a bonus point, you prevent yourself from being banned.

Sources: 4 years in League and a crap load of years on the Internet.

58 Comments

Pika Fox19 votes

This is why we need a tool that allows us to punch people through computer screens.

DeathBot6663 votes

We're getting close. Facebook already allows you to poke someone.

Ace Access 3 votes

well League does have a poker player TwistedFate so we're pretty close

Nyanza10 votes

{quoted}

"But I wunna serve justise!1!"

Play Garen

Gary B Enkelis4 votes

Waiter Garen to go with the new food line of skins.

Legacy Hydralpha13 votes

"Your justice shall be here shortly."

Darius: "I ordered a burger."

"Justice."

Mistress Madoka6 votes

There was one time where I had a trolling teammate turn the match in our favour

They began Dancing instead of Fighting

the enemy started Dancing with them

Bot lane became a Giant Dance Party

They forgot to pay attention as Jax backdoored the nexus

Gary B Enkelis7 votes

Report Jax , party pooper.

[zombie-nunu-tears]

Mistress Madoka5 votes

Imean, I'm not sure "Won the game" is gonna go very well through the Report system, but yeah, we were all like "wtf Jax just come dance with us"

Only Play Darius5 votes

Also in real life you can't always walk away from a bully so confrontation could be the best option. Online after that game there's a good chance you won't see them again.

Gary B Enkelis3 votes

Yeah at least not until you get to a high MMR or something and match with the small group that also got there.

TequilaZombie6 votes

That moment when you're happy to be a Bronze pleb.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

I have no idea if people at the bottom also experience this in a similar way. There are probably way less at the top than the bottom, but I think it has a kind of bell curve in between?

TequilaZombie2 votes

So far in my Bronze games I've been rematched with only one person to the date. And that was on a monday in what would be about 1 pm at USA during school season, so the summoners pool would be really small.

chubs12242 votes

Foxdrop did a video on this and it showed that Bronze makes up roughly half the player base. With Bronze1 to silver 5 being the average skill set then gold being the top 1/3 to top 1/4 of the player base

Atanchan2 votes

{quoted}

As sad as it may sound, besides reporting, there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

Clearly, Riot should solve this by allowing accounts with no strikes to look up the personal information of accounts with strikes on them, as well as providing those no-strikers tools to DDoS and hack into the non-League accounts of those strikers. >>b

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

I don't understand.

TequilaZombie5 votes

If you get matched with a troll and you have never been punished, Riot should release personal information from the ofenders so you, the goody two shoes, can hack his non LoL related stuff, such as emails and facebook.

That's the non internet savy version of it.

Gary B Enkelis2 votes

I guess it was a bad joke? I don't see how it's a good idea.

TequilaZombie1 votes

Probably

Atanchan1 votes

The whole point is that it would allow us to put matters into our own hands, but, yes, it's a terrible idea not to mention likely highly illegal.

Plus when you put the slightest bit of thought of it, even if you ignore the fact that "someone with no strikes" doesn't equal "not a bad person," it'd be very easy for someone to just never do anything toxic to potentially get into the bank accounts of an untold amount of people, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

I don't know, man. You've kinda lost me.

Maybe it's a bad idea that can be turned into a good idea?

I'm trolling. My bad. Sometimes I can't help it. Can't make it stop.

arghilost2 votes

So why is it okay for Riot to try and change internet culture/censor what we say but we can't attempt to change the culture that "there is nothing you can do" against internet trolls?

If it makes people feel better to tell the troll to kill himself, they should be allowed to do so. Muting and reporting him doesn't get my LP back nor does it solve anything. Verbally destroying him at his own game is much more satisfying until they are the ones forced to block you. You become the person he has to run away from.

Mishli5 votes

the problem is there is no way to beat an internet troll by arguing with him, as they thrive off the argument and your displeasure, the only way to beat them is to not acknowledge them. you can't reason with them, you can't anger them, you cant' beat them in an argument, so the best way to aggrivate a troll is to make them think that everything they are doing isn't bothering you

arghilost1 votes

as I said, I disagree as i've made countless trolls have to block me, not the other way around. if they wanted to keep arguing they would keep responding. I am just very good at out-trolling trolls so they often give up.

Each person should be allowed to deal with trolls in their own way that works for them, instead of this culture where we force it down people's throats that "ignoring" is the only way. That doesn't work for everyone, including myself.

TequilaZombie6 votes

Meanwhile you made the game extremely unpleasant for the other 3 players who had nothing to do with your argument.

arghilost1 votes

how so? if there was a troll, the game was already unpleasant. I fail to see how me destroying the troll is the thing making it unpleasant.

StarTorched5 votes

Because instead of just one idiotic troll, there are now two.

I'm not saying you are an idiot, but I'm saying that's how your teammates may see it. There's a troll? sucks, he's an asshole, now there's one trying to out asshole the asshole.

arghilost1 votes

nah, in high elo people appreciate when people dumpster trolls because they are already known to be trolls so nobody cares.

TequilaZombie2 votes

You destroying the troll, while might be a nice way to massage your ego and make you feel better during the game, is seen as nothing but a petty discussion by your teammates. It's chat polution at the best case scenario and wasted time in the worst. Hell, I've seem MANY people die while arguing with a troll.

arghilost1 votes

nah, trolls in high elo are well known beforehand so nobody cares if you shit on them, its amusing for everyone except the troll.

Gary B Enkelis3 votes

They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Meep Man2 votes

As much as the Internet Troll hurts you, deceives you, ruins your day, or even hurts a member of your group, death is a permanent punishment that can never be taken back and if you truly wish death upon someone, do it outside of the game to yourself!

Also, you fool, no troll that has big enough pants to call himself a troll will give a damn what you say to him!

arghilost1 votes

I don't personally use the "kys" because it is generic and doesn't work, but if somebody uses that as their defense mechanism, let them.

If as you stated the trolls aren't affected by words then it hurts nobody and the person saying it feels better.

You'd be surprised. I've never had a troll last long against me I seem to have the gift of reverse trolling because they usually stop/get bored within 5 minutes of messaging me and resort to blocking me when they start getting destroyed.

Recently I had a troll add after the game and challenge me to a 1v1, pretty bad mistake considering ive done 1v1 tournaments and made actual money off them. I beat him quite easily and traded some jabs with him until he finally had to block me because he couldnt take it. That's how you destroy a troll.

Gary B Enkelis2 votes

{quoted}

I don't personally use the "kys" because it is generic and doesn't work, but if somebody uses that as their defense mechanism, let them.

The person saying it can be tagged by the report system and get in trouble. This is probably what a troll wants.

General Esdeath 2 votes

At the same time I don't care to report people flaming the trolls. I just sit back and kek

TequilaZombie1 votes

I never report people who flame at trolls, but someone will. Hell, if I was a troll I'd try my best to make someone rage at me and then report them for verbal abuse.

General Esdeath 1 votes

hehe xd

vv7eZjd8Pj1 votes

Lol i just don't get why in turn I'm the one to get punished.. And the troll doesen't. The tribunal is down and even if it was up, the person wouldn't of seen what he did in game. I really hope they fix it and ban people who intentionally feed. No point putting that as a feature if they don't use it properly.

TequilaZombie5 votes

Because two wrongs don't make a right.

As the tribunal, it was probably a better system. I took my time to actually read through the cases and I'm sure quite a few other also did. If they could put it back up and maybe give a reward to players who gave their time for the tribunal, the system would work much better.

NoRunesMasteries3 votes

They should give a special in-game border ribbon for players who score over 85% or 100% on their Tribunal contribution.

Because ribbons, not everyone has or owns them. XD

TequilaZombie1 votes

I had to stop playing for a while twice. In the first time I lost my yellow ribbon (it turned in the easy to get green one), on the second one I lost my green ribbon and now I have nothing.

WE NEED MORE RIBBONS!

NoRunesMasteries1 votes

I used to have a ribbon but after being TOXIC and all I lost it I believe and therefore haven't been able to nor I don't think will I ever get another one...

There should be like the loot punishment where if you got reported you're not eligible for loot rewards be applied to the ribbons too.

I thought it was once, 'Earn X amount of in-game Friendly, Teamwork, etcs' to earn the ribbons. Yet I have over 200 of each :(

Witch of Babylon1 votes

It's sad that most of the reports we do we don't get the dealt with notification, meaning they never got a punishment.

StarTorched6 votes

You actually don't know, since only the reports of the game that got the troll banned is notified. So you might have reported someone and contributed to the person ultimately getting punished, but you just never know if you don't stalk their profile drooling to see them punished.

Witch of Babylon1 votes

Wait. So I all the notifications I got mean they got banned? Thank you for making my day sir.

StarTorched2 votes

Wait wha-. I'm a bit confused now. You get an onscreen notification from the automated system if your report is the last one before the person got banned.

I feel like I might have missed some sort of sarcasm here. o-o;

Witch of Babylon1 votes

wat

StarTorched3 votes

They give you a message on screen saying blah blah, the player you reported has been punished, or something along that lines. That means they got some sort of punishment (ban/chat restrict/etc)

I'm saying even without the notification, your report would have counted if someone was truly a toxic player. Because the onscreen message is only sent to the person who sent in the last report (the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak).

So rejoice, even if it might seem like it your reports are not worthless :)

Aeszarck1 votes

{quoted}

Wait wha-. I'm a bit confused now. You get an onscreen notification from the automated system if your report is the last one before the person got banned.

I feel like I might have missed some sort of sarcasm here. o-o;

I think the notification may be for chat restrictions as well, since those are also punishments.

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