some changes for frozen heart?

mythsealaes··11 votes·1,050 views

frozen heart is now almost useless item except for 20% cdr but since everyone runs lot of armor penetration and frozen heart dont give raw power you should make it give less armor and some hp and keep the cdr like make build path item 3024 +item 3067 and give it some minor refreshing shield that scales with lvl since most ranged champions have higher attack range than the aura and this would alsaw make warmog a lot better bcs minions still stop regen so have a nice small shield would be nice 20+10*lvl maximum generated 25% of strength every 5 seconds regardless of combat

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Sire Hippington3 votes

I don't think we should put hp on FH, we already have 3 hp+armor items. Rather increase the armor back to 100 as it once was(even if it means higher gold cost) I like the shield Idea how ever, helps a bit vs poke and synergieses with Warmongs.

However, there are 2 other selling points of FH that imo could use buffs to make it more potent in it's niche: The mana, it's one of the few tank items that helps with mana. Something like +100% base manareg for 4sec whenever you take damage from a champion or large monster would make it a good option for solveing mana issues. Ther other thing is the Aura, just buff it back to 20% or even 25% AS-slow, and a bigger aura range wouldn't hurt either. I also wouldn't mind seeing either a ms-slow aura(like 2%, stacking up to 20% over 10 sec) or 10-15% slow on getting hit for ~1-2sec(old randuins passive), as that would fit with the frost theme.

If cdr actually was something special it would help FH aswell, back in the days the 20%cdr really was a selling point, now most core gears get 30% from items+10 from runes easily, with 20% cdr on stuff like trinity, Iceborn and BC while everyone gets SV or maw for another 10% It woud also be nice to have a big ticket HP item again, as that would work well with armor only items like FH or Thornmail.

Anyway, there are plenty ways of buffing FH without turning it into yet another armor/hp item

A Bad Nasus3 votes

The attack speed reduction needs a buff, an aura range increase would also be good. I prefer it to be "the big armor" item bringing it back to 100 armor instead of giving it hp. A slight buff to mana would also be worth looking at.

Almost no one buys this item, I'm surprised they haven't made any changes to it yet.

FireDrizzle2 votes

They are nerfing the last whisper item's armour pen which is an indirect buff to FH so I dont think your suggestions are necessary. If most ranged champs outrange the aura increasing the aura size is a good idea.

Redeemed Vyrdaes1 votes

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They are nerfing the last whisper item's armour pen which is an indirect buff to FH so I dont think your suggestions are necessary. If most ranged champs outrange the aura increasing the aura size is a good idea.

Yeah, aura definitely needs to go up, especially with the incoming nerfs to Randuin's. However, I agree that instead of a buttload of mana and no health, they should reduce the mana and give it something like 250 hp. Not a lot, but enough to warrant getting it on someone like Vlad or Mundo who can't use the goddamn mana anyway.

Lord Galvatron2 votes

More atk speed redox, bigger aura range. Make "cold steel" in general not a unique passive.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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More atk speed redox, bigger aura range. Make "cold steel" in general not a unique passive.

Problem is, the as buff hurts low attack speed champions the most, because it makes their combo's + autos really hard to do smoothly, and makes it really easy for them to accidently cancel an auto.

Lord Galvatron1 votes

Perhaps a % attack speed reduction would be better. Also, maybe if cold steel kind of acted like a reverse Black Cleaver. Every time they auto you, they get more atk speed reduction.

Incognonymous1 votes

FH is weak because AS isn't a priority stat anymore.

DeathBot6661 votes

If I may make a suggestion to make your post better:

Use punctuation. It's very hard to understand what you want when you just have a giant run on.

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