So why would an team refuse too surrender?

allenmark00··4 votes·814 views

So I've just got out of an loss with Ashe: I was underleveled compared to the enemy, I kept dying, I felt like giving up, the match was going on for too long. So I did the rational thing and voted for an surrender...more than once. Guess what the results were....3v2. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Look, I know it's "fun" to fight to the bitter end, but why?

I am an Acoylyte in the Sunken-Costs Order of Thought and our logic dictates that if something is unworthy of the investment, then it should be abandoned and forgotten.

Now the average person's train of thought would be something like this... http://douglasecastleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Sunk-Costs-Emotional-Attachments-Which-Cause-Us-To-Continue-To-Invest-Despite-The-Apparent-And-Growing-Losses..jpg

So right now I'm curious as to why would you want to fight in an losing battle when you could earn more IP for the first win of the day?

17 Comments

Prospector Pete6 votes

I would water the dead plant just in case it might be alive. Same thing with league. There's always a chance for the enemy to throw.

BakedLotion1 votes

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I would water the dead plant just in case it might be alive. Same thing with league. There's always a chance for the enemy to throw.

Let's just wait for them to throw when every single one of the enemy champions can 1v5 l0l

Blade of Justic3 votes

I get punished if I leave a game.

I get punished if I stay.

Well, no matter what you're F@#$ed.

Lugg3 votes

It's because people are actually trying to win the game, especially if it's ranked. When you try to surrender early, a lot of people will be pissed that you are giving up so soon. So they intentionally DON'T surrender just to piss you off in return.

I have to admit that I have had games where teammates want to surrender because we gave up first blood, lost first dragon, or we are behind THREE kills. In those games, I will intentionally not surrender specifically to waste that person's time because they have obviously wasted mine by not trying to win.

allenmark001 votes

But it was about 2/3 of the way into the fight

Lugg2 votes

I have had games at that point WHERE WE WERE AHEAD! and people still wanted to surrender. WTF?

The only time I will surrender is if we are WAY behind and we don't have the comp to outscale them.

allenmark001 votes

So I've just had an match with Warwick and this is what I did...

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/543/749/3af.gif

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/536/264/96f.jpg

to be fair this is how I test out any new champion that I play to determine it's potential. And as such, he failed the WAAAAGGGGHHH! test. R.I.P. Warwick may you rest peacefully along with Lux and that time-wizard whose name that I can't remember.

But the good news is that I was so bad that I forced my team to surrender as soon as we could, so win-win?

Lugg1 votes

If you can't win with Lux and Warwick right now, something is seriously wrong.

allenmark001 votes

I actually won with Lux, but I didn't like her playstyle.

Iceember2 votes

Depends on the match. E as your entire team getting stomped into dust or was it a 12-15 scenario in which better grouping and picking better teamfights would result in a win? Did your team have more cs? Maybe an extra tower or two over them? Remember. Kills and deaths aren't the only factors in the game and you can turn around most disadvantages.

allenmark002 votes

It was 7 to 33+ in terms of kills, we were all underlevel, everyone wasn't happy, and we didn't kill an turret and I was all like

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/206/729/131443075153-Abandon_thread_Jim.gif

in chat, but no one took my advice.

allenmark001 votes

Got another match see ya in half an hour.

allenmark001 votes

Note to self: NEVER PLAY AS WARWICK AGAIN!

Ralanr1 votes

We all have champions we just don't ever want to play after trying.

For me it's Mundo.

Jungled1 votes

Quality thread.

Arguing about arguing over a physical argument on the fields of justice.

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