The one thing that can you never underestimate in bronze.

NuggeTech··57 votes·3,484 views

People in higher elos make fun of us bronzies. "Oh the players in bronze are horrible.They can't CS is their life depended on it." , "Man, the bronzies don't even know how to dodge skill shots" , "Bronzies just suck. No one wards". Which is..well..true.

But one thing that you can almost never see in any other elos (maybe silver) is the ability to throw. Your entire team maybe having a negative KDA yet you are somehow the winner. Just look at one my games with Sona. The only player who had Positive KDA was Jinx that too because she is late game (I think) and we won based solely on team fights. Their Fizz and Yasuo were wrecking us but we pulled a win through.

Bronze players may suck, but one thing I got to admit it is by far the most unpredictable elo out there. Just try playing there. I watch some of the twitch streamers and they are mostly in Diamond and above.If one of their players get fed the result is crystal clear. However, in bronze, a team with a 30/0 Darius will throw so hard that you will forget the the Warriors threw away a 3-1 lead

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greekvandaL30 votes

bronze is also hard to play too. When you are higher tiers you expect different plays and reactions to your champion. MIssed tons of spells simply because they dont even bother dodge and they throw me off lol.. Truly one of the funniest elos to be in.

Fondling Gems2 votes

Yup, currently helping my friend level up since he just got into the game, I gave up playing carries after lv 10. I also promptly swore to not play Taric with him until we had a roughly equal ranking so that I wouldn't get matched with ADC's who don't know how he works.

Bronze/pre lv 30 is hell.

Knoyle13 votes

I think the best moment I ever had was making a plat player blow flash even though my skillshot was going to miss.

Melledoneus5 votes

It's like when you play against bots and miss your skillshots because they don't bother trying to dodge.

Like, for fuck's sake these mind games.

Botifier2 votes

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It's like when you play against bots and miss your skillshots because they don't bother trying to dodge.

Like, for fuck's sake these mind games.

It gets worse with the fact they will sometimes become juking gods

Amasa Delano8 votes

Another thing that's very reliable on Bronze: the propensity to chase.

If I get fed on even a semi mobile champion, I can lead the entire enemy team on a tour around Summoner's Rift at half health while my team (hopefully) destroys their entire base. Unless, you know, they're chasing too. -.-

3TWarrior16 votes

danger ping danger ping danger ping danger ping

an ally has been slain

RainbowIcee2 votes

This is the problem with silver elo. This happens way too often where 2 teams are chasing each other for kills and letting objectives go. The thing is that there are a lot people that are objective focused so they attempt to push or take objectives and wether the team supports them or not decides the game. They can pincir the enemy team between or focus on 1 person for 1 kill and sacrifice the objective minded player and lose. So silver elo sadly relies hugely on the ability to lead your team. You cant let them do their own thing.

grug8 votes

The team with the 30/0 darius doesn't always throw the game himself, his team does because they don't understand the pressure game and how much attention that 30/0 darius is drawing to himself.

I've seen this situation many times also and it usually goes like this:

30/0 darius is so fed that he goes and splitpushes a lane, his team converges on the darius instead of pushing sidelanes and pressuring for objective control. Teammates then proceed to get caught out and feed en route in a conveyor belt fashion, darius eventually gets outnumbered and killed due to conveyor belt feeding causing the darius lead to gradually taper off.

Low ELO guys have a strange magnetism to the most fed member on their team because they're hoping they'll get carried by the fed teammate instead of efficiently using that generated pressure. even if the fed guy starts dying, you can still win the game if you understand the effects of the pressure they are generating.

Wyrmblade6 votes

Getting placed in Bronze was some of the most fun I've ever had playing league.

Unrelated to that, I once got a Ziggs in normals on my team who fed 45 kills and we still won.

Kilanost4 votes

With that lack of predictability comes a lack of confidence in your team's follow-through in circumstances where you want to make a play.

You could have a favorable 5v4, go in to make a play, and have 2/4 of the other people not commit to the play because they only know how to play scared. Then you die. Thats how games are thrown which is just unbelievably frustrating to play in. I remember duoing for a game with a guy who is 5+ divisions lower than I was (he was B 3 or 4) and I spent the game averaging about a kill per minute with only a few deaths but the lack of basic understanding of the game from my team mates made that game end in a loss. My mind was blown and I swore not to duo with people that much lower than me ever again because I just couldn't take the frustration. The skill difference was so noticeable it was absurd.

This would be better with the introduction of voice comms because at least I could have told them what to do that game to win after I got that far ahead.

3TWarrior3 votes

the old "why are you running away at full health! you're the tank!" meme XD

FioraWillCarry4 votes

I never understand why people spew all that bullshit about Bronzies cannot CS or dodge skillshots. I'm currently in Bronze, I've climbed as far as Silver 4 and I've watched a lot of high elo games and I see the same shit in all elos. Bronze players are just as mechanically capable as a typical Diamond player. I've seen Diamond players farm poorly, even when smurfing and I see Bronze players farm like pros. I've seen Diamond games where a guy would chase a low HP enemy all the way across the map instead of taking a tower, just like you would in a low elo game. Although, this behavior is more rare at high elo, it happens still.

There's this guy called Ghost to Lane on YouTube. He does this feature where he places Bronze players in Diamond games and shows highlights of the game. I've seen the Bronze players crush the Diamond players in lane in more than one instance. The point I'm making, is that it's bullshit.

What separates a Diamond player from a Bronze player is not mechanical shit like farming or landing and dodging skillshots. Higher elo players have a better understanding of the macro game. They know how to be in the right place at the right time to make the most effective use of their time.

The only exception are Challenger players, pro players and ex-pro players who really are Godly at mechanics but from Bronze to mid Diamond, the only thing the separates the players is their ability to make the right calls, nothing more.

Relish2 votes

Lolno, bronze have a quantitative lack of skill, this increases till plat where the difference becomes qualatative, you're in bronze because you don't know how to play the game, your in silver because you don't know how to rotate etc. Also, higher tier players miss way less cs than bronze, silver and gold players combined.

PureSilvrr1 votes

Ive won vs a 40 kill kassadin, that beat a Yasuo in lane, they literally could have had our nexus but they didn't.

rtbf2216514126 votes

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Ive won vs a 40 kill kassadin, that beat a Yasuo in lane, they literally could have had our nexus but they didn't.

If someone has 40 kills, that means their team doesn't have the gold, the Kass does.

Grymmstrike1 votes

Not necessarily true ;) Earlier I went 11/12/27 and our Garen went 31/10/13 and we STILL had enough kills for our Fizz to go 17/12/16 ;)

Sadly, our Vayne went 1/5/4 over the 17 minutes he decided to play which left us playing 4v5 for the next 30 minutes....Finally losing a match that we led the entire time (We had a 9k gold lead at 25 minutes, down to 6k at 30 minutes, back to 9k at 32 minutes, almost 10k at 40 minutes, and still 3.7k at 48 minutes when we lost.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Not necessarily true ;) Earlier I went 11/12/27 and our Garen went 31/10/13 and we STILL had enough kills for our Fizz to go 17/12/16 ;)

Sadly, our Vayne went 1/5/4 over the 17 minutes he decided to play which left us playing 4v5 for the next 30 minutes....Finally losing a match that we led the entire time (We had a 9k gold lead at 25 minutes, down to 6k at 30 minutes, back to 9k at 32 minutes, almost 10k at 40 minutes, and still 3.7k at 48 minutes when we lost.

You guys starved your ADC. Kudos?

TotalJerk6 votes

Seen this a million goddamn times. One person hogs all the kill gold/exp and starves the rest of their team, then the moment they go down in a teamfight the entire team collapses. Cue them bitching in the post-game chat about how their team was "too heavy".

FantasySniper1 votes

You never beat Yasuo in lane... He just comes back with a power spike anyways.

69469238DEL11 votes

bronze players arent even playing league

Skins Project1 votes

Wat..

Positive and negative kdas?

That's not possible....

You either are positive, 0, or undefined KDA wise...

5/2=2.5 which is positive

1/10=.1 which is positive

0/10= 0 which is 0

10/0 is undefined....

/s

I get what your saying but.......

;)

NuggeTech1 votes

I might have typed it wrong. What I meant was everyone on my team except for my ADC had more deaths than kills. Our top was 2/16 if I remember correctly. Thanks for clearing it up for me though :)

Skins Project1 votes

Lul just a pet peeve.

There's no "negative" kda.

You get below one and above 1 ;)

Wimbledofy2 votes

Positive means good negative means bad. Or positive meaning the difference between kills and deaths is positive, and negative meaning the difference between kills and deaths is negative. If you're going to try to act smart, be smarter please.

Skins Project1 votes

KDR stands for kill death ratio.

Ratio is not addition NOR subtraction.

KDA means kill death assists, so it honestly isn't relevant.

TDR is what we will be using here. Takedowns/death ratio.

Negative in the literal sense means below 0. Positive in the literal sense means above 0.

If you want to go there. The difference still can't be negative. Difference is how much is in-between and hence can never be negative, it is an absolute value. 1-10 has a difference of 9 10-1 also has a difference of 9.

Even if you want to take it connotation wise, good and bad are relatively based. 4/6 might be "positive" for one player and "negative" for another under the ideas of "Positive means good negative means bad."

Take your own advice.

I had a pet peeve and pointed out the flaw. You tried to act smart by insulting me.

ForeverLaxx3 votes

Your "pet peeve" ignores context and accepted nomenclature. A "negative KDR" is a KDR that's lower than 1. It's been that way since the concept was introduced and referenced as an indicator of skill.

One of my pet peeves is pseudo-intellectuals.

Standgrounding1 votes

It's calculated like Kills-Deaths There can be negative KDA. Although if we actually divide, anything less than 1 is "negative". And undefined (KDA=infinity <-- division by zero) is more than one so it's "positive"; 0/0 KDA is, well, neutral.

Lord Galvatron1 votes

TBH throwing is more of a Bronze - Gold level thing. I have seen sooooooooooo many thrown games in silver and gold. It's really Plat where people have a better time holding onto leads and even then it's not that uncommon.

There are 2 types of Bronze ranked people: The people that know they are bad, and the people who deserve to be in Bronze.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

well, i know i deserve to be bronze, but that also means that i know that i am bad, which means i don't deserve to be in bronze, now isn't that just bronze?

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

As a Gold level player, I can say that people in higher Elos have just as much trouble as Bronze, its just that their strengths are just greater than the strengths of the players in Bronze. I've had many throws in Gold and I've won many games I shouldnt have. People still throw.

I've found that people in Gold are usually good at one or two things, but nothing else. They are really good at gaining a huge lead in lane, but then they throw it cause they dont know wave management or map rotations. Or people are good at map rotations and get a huge lead midgame, but throw cause they try 1v1ing when they shouldnt (or the team attempts a 4v5 when they shouldnt). Or they make good map rotations, but bad Baron calls. I feel that if youre good at all or most of these things, you wouldnt be in Gold - you would be able to climb.


And as a Warrior fan, they didnt really "throw" a 3-1 lead. Draymond got suspended after the game 3 (Like, what? If the refs didnt find it Flagrant during the game, how do they come after the game and suspend him for that? I cant remember the last time someone got suspended in a post-game review in the playoffs, do you? But to be fair - okay, it was a dirty hit.) Bogut gets hurt - cant do anything about losing your best big, but saying you threw your lead when your starting center gets hurt isnt really accurate. (If the 30/0 Darius disconnects, its not really throwing, is it? You lost because someone is unable to play. IT has nothing to do with bad decisions or lack of effort). Then Steph gets fouled out in Game 6 - and the refs completely dropped the ball on that one. Fouls 2/5/6 were complete crap. For the second, Lebron puts a nice shove with his shoulder but then wraps his hand around Curry and brings him to the ground, but Curry gets the foul? Its not like Steph was moving when the contact occurred - by that time both his feet were planted. Foul 5 was just playoff basketball - there was more contact on the play than usual (as per general postseason basketball), but Curry got called when he hit nothing but the ball. The 6th was just stupid. The 4th was questionable - I wouldnt go as far as to say that it was a terrible call, but it had to be the smallest amount of contact for a legitimate foul in that series. (But again, to be fair, Kyrie should have shot 3 from Curry's 3rd foul, not 2 - refs dropped the ball for the Cavs too).

Spoofghoul1 votes

Bronze requires a differetn strategy to win

shit like proxy trynd/sion/heim will make your lifee easy in bronze

Serika Zero1 votes

hint, this also happens in silver, gold and plat i've almost lost games in plat when my akali was 15+ kills in the first 20 mins............ as after all the enemy big CD spells and abilities they get used on me, they just run away from the team fight and that's just one of many games. It happens in higher elo too, people throw a lot

but i personally don't have fun getting stomped for 40 minutes to just pick a win in the last moment, so, i rather just afk around. if the match is around equal, its fine if the team atmosphere is cool, its fine even if we lose hard if we stomp, its usually fine unless someone trolls anything else, just alt+tab, go read stuff on net and press auto pathing on the minimap every minute or so till the game inevitably ends

+best is just muting all chat

Sonasaurous1 votes

I've actually grown so accustomed to the randomness of Bronze, that--sure, while it can get very frustrating and annoying at times because a lot of Bronzies are either a sack of potatoes or one trick ponies--it is a lot of fun to play. Bronze games are so flippy-floppy that you never really know who is going to win because, yes, the throws are real.

I've also noticed that you can do just about anything you want to do in Bronze because of the lovely tilt factor that entails (i.e., playing something not meta and having a slightly higher chance of winning lane by tilting your opponent because of certain combined factors, such as you knowing what you're doing and the enemy instantly getting tilted because they're against something off-meta and don't know how to play against it).

And sure, it's the only elo I know, but I'm okay with it. I play league to have fun, not to go off and be a pro or streamer.

SSJTribe1 votes
Emerald Fang1 votes

That's why I yell at people who want to ff when it's 20-10. Because anything can happen. I've won a game where we were down 54 - 24.

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