Blade of Ruined King range

NodirjonSattarov·Jan 16, 2017·1 votes·554 views

I think BoRK is crucial on Kog'Maw but the range for it is pretty bad. I try to distance 710 AA range from anything whether that be team fights of csing so when it comes time to activate BoRK I find myself walking towards what I want to BoRK since it's 500. Right now it's even more dangerous to get near anything as Kog'Maw since he is squishy throughout the course of the game.

My question is why BoRK costs more compared to Hextech Gunblade when Hextech provides a better slow, longer range (700), and a reliable nuke (active). BoRK slow is pretty much negligible with the several forms of gap close available for most champions.

TL;DR : BoRK range seems to favor sticking/engaging on something more than disengage. It's really hard to reliably get away with BoRK slow and E as Koggy

12 Comments

Asayake 5150glowJan 16, 20171 votes

Bork heals you, and gives on hit %max health damage, as well as attack speed. It's a tank shred item, so obviously Gunblade is better against squishies, but as Kog is mostly a tank shredder, Bork seems more like the way to go.

NodirjonSattarovJan 16, 20171 votes

It doesn't scale though and on-hit is/will ALWAYS under perform. Does it even heal for the on-hit damage? It's just unreliable.

Asayake 5150glowJan 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcxwhJdg,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-01-16T01:27:06.667+0000)

It doesn't scale though and on-hit is/will ALWAYS under perform. Does it even heal for the on-hit damage? It's just unreliable.

It scales with %enemy max health, which definitely scales. Yes it does heal for the on-hit damage. Also, Vayne used to build it and she always did those plays, so it's definitely not thaaaaaaat unreliable :P

NodirjonSattarovJan 16, 20171 votes

So why doesn't she build it anymore? I think that answers the question about how viable/useful the item really is.

ZephyrDrakeJan 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcxwhJdg,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-16T01:44:54.712+0000)

So why doesn't she build it anymore? I think that answers the question about how viable/useful the item really is.

because her Q not can crit so she can just build crit and delete everyone.

You don't use the active on blade to deal damage, you use it when someone is on top of you or when you are chasing someone. It scales very well since it's dependent on he enemies HP and it does heal you. Kog scales better with AS than some random amount of AP

NodirjonSattarovJan 16, 20171 votes

As much as everyone thinks Kog'Maw needs AS he already get 2.035AS at level 18 with Berserker greaves alone. With phantom dancer he fullfills the 2.5AS requirement.

You don't use the active on blade to deal damage, you use it when someone is on top of you or when you are chasing someone.

I don't use it to deal damage, which I explained in the OP. I'm saying its not a reliable peel mechanism and chasing someone (especially as kog'maw who has one of the lowest base MS) 550 is certainly not enough to catch up to 80% of champion roster most of which have a MS buff mechanic.

ZephyrDrakeJan 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcxwhJdg,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-16T01:55:02.756+0000)

As much as everyone thinks Kog'Maw needs AS he already get 2.035AS at level 18 with Berserker greaves alone. With phantom dancer he fullfills the 2.5AS requirement.

I don't use it to deal damage, which I explained in the OP. I'm saying its not a reliable peel mechanism and chasing someone (especially as kog'maw who has one of the lowest base MS) 550 is certainly not enough to catch up to 80% of champion roster most of which have a MS buff mechanic.

so what you want? that the item root everyone for 10 seconds?

Asayake 5150glowJan 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcxwhJdg,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-16T01:44:54.712+0000)

So why doesn't she build it anymore? I think that answers the question about how viable/useful the item really is.

Because the meta is now more about ADC's threeshotting mages and fiveshotting tanks instead of melting tanks and adc's alike?

NodirjonSattarovJan 16, 20171 votes

Why do late game champions like Vayne and Twitch able to perform substantially better earlier when other late game champions like Tristana and Kog'Maw perform incredibly poorly at every point in the game? It's not ADCs its only certain ADCs. The game has too much damage as of now.

LordGeovanniJan 16, 20171 votes

mages dont 5 shot they 3 shot they just take slightly longer than adcs to do it because of cooldowns even if they are only 3-5 seconds cooldowns

LordGeovanniJan 16, 20171 votes

% current heal damage but still strong

LordGeovanniJan 16, 20171 votes

nope doesnt need range buffs because the second bruisers start building it again because its supposed to be a bruiser item and can actully catch 400 ms adcs with their 2 zeal builds adcs gonna complain and ask for nerfs on bruisers who already have to build psuedo tank to even be used and that isnt how they are supposed to build but the game isnt balanced and there is too much damage flying around for champions who dont have range or targeted dashes on short cooldown or in charges to not build 4 defensive items