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Prime example of why noone wants to Jgl

PhearBunny·2/16/2020, 10:47:12 PM·3 votes·2,274 views

So there I am, I clear my blue side, just killed my Red buff. Enemy jungler screws up hugely, arrives late to attempt a Red steal. I 1v1 enemy jungler, he flashes, I am in pursuit to finish him off.

BOTH my top laner and mid laner are in perfect position to collapse on this. Neither of them do. Both of the enemy solo laners do. The enemy junglers mistake is now rewarded by my laners inability to notice whats going on around them.(cant see pings?) I lose my Krugs, Raptors, and both Scuttles. I am now 2 levels behind.

Im at my 2nd Blue buff spawn, enemy jungler(now 3 levels higher than me) pressures me. Im handling him, keeping him there, but unable to kill me or safely secure the blue steal, im buying my bot lane time to move, they don't. My mid laner decides to take the oppurunity to hard push mid instead of help me get back into the game. I lose my Blue buff and die to the enemy mid laner while my mid laner is AAing the mid lane tower, and my bot lane is sitting on their tower.

I am now 4 levels behind the enemy jungler, and being blamed for a loss. And this is why noone wants to jungle. The enemy jungler made a mistake, got caught in that mistake, and I was the one who paid for it- because my solo laners are on autopilot, tunnle visioning their lane phase.

16 Comments

Love Anastasia2/16/2020, 11:17:08 PM4 votes

It's not a secret thst jungle is a hard "Better lanes wins" since 8.10

The thigh guy2/16/2020, 11:13:57 PM4 votes

Isn’t it great how you can lose a game for a mistake that isn’t even your own.

Jungle is a joke now. and I still refuse to play until rito fixes it.

I should not have the absolute most responsibility, while also being the weakest person on my team.

If I power farm, I should not be 2-4 levels lower than my solo lanes.

NuggetMilk2/16/2020, 11:32:25 PM2 votes

At least in low ELO, you have to assume that your teammates are too focused on their lane, and play accordingly. Don't take risks assuming that your team will follow up. In this snowbally meta, making a crucial mistake as a jungler loses you the game. This is not an argument against your point, but support. No ne wants to play jungle right now, because so much is put on their shoulders, and most times, no one is willing to help take off some of the load. So for the majority of games in the jungle, you either solo carry or lose.

Darkdemon6532/16/2020, 11:44:49 PM2 votes

https://imgur.com/ykvEMuM

Nice

MrFawknSunshine2/16/2020, 10:56:13 PM2 votes

i dont like jungle cuz i dont like baby sitting 3 lanes. i rather support and worry about one lane.

Bijeesny2/16/2020, 11:19:39 PM2 votes

Why do you try to kill the enemy jungler WITH THE ASSUMPTION that your laners will follow? Especially that early. Better go for safe plays rather than right ones. While you did the right thing, because of uncertain factors (your laners), it wasnt a safe play.

Should've just let him go and make yourself stronger, since now he wasted time and flash trying to steal your buff, so he would be the one behind.

Malix Farwin2/17/2020, 7:30:28 AM1 votes

NA is the only region where Jungle is the least played. In fact it isnt even all elos that jungle is the least played its low elo specifically. Every other elo/region its support thats the least played still.

Posui Gart2/17/2020, 12:20:56 PM1 votes

The enemy junglers mistake is now rewarded by my laners inability to notice whats going on around them.

And your inability to check the minimap

I lose my Blue buff and die to the enemy mid laner while my mid laner is AAing the mid lane tower

Because you once again didn't check the minimap

Sure, jungling feels bad, but you, or we, or Riot, can't do shit about your laners not moving to help.

PhearBunny2/17/2020, 12:42:20 PM1 votes

No, you cant just concede your whole jungle. There is no catchup exp. If you do that, you end up in the position i was in, being 4 levels behind. I cant gank anything when im lvl 4 and the rest of the map is lvl6+ lol. I need to be able to clear my camps and atleast hit lvl6 to be back in the game. If i gank at lvl 4 vs lvl 6 lanes, thats called inting. also i wasnt a slippery enough champion to risk going out in the open with such a massive experience differencial. If i got caught by anyone or anything i was a free kill. I had to stay within my jungle and farm to lvl 6 to get back in the game, but i wasnt being allowed to do so. Not because the enemy jungler was a problem, but rather because he had laners who understand you need to support your jungler.

Pika Fox2/17/2020, 12:43:48 PM1 votes

Alternatively;

You failed to look at the map, over committed to a chase that you ended up losing, and fell behind because of it.

Your laners didnt collapse. Its still your fault for continuing to push yourself into a disadvantageous position knowing full well they were not coming, and seeing quite clearly that the enemy was responding.

Your laners "mistake" is irrelevant. You cannot control them. That doesnt make your play "correct", and theirs "wrong", it makes your play incorrect based off the information clearly visible to you.