Would you rather have autofill, "mid or feed" or 20 minute queue times?

Irelia Bot·Dec 31, 2016·4 votes·1,292 views

Cause those are the 3 options.

37 Comments

CalabokDec 31, 20162 votes

nope. lets have NO autofill AND we get our primary role 100%?

RIOT is just lazy

Rock MDDec 31, 20163 votes

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nope. lets have NO autofill AND we get our primary role 100%?

RIOT is just lazy

So 20 minute queue times.

CalabokDec 31, 20162 votes

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So 20 minute queue times.

so? i'm cool with that.

Rock MDDec 31, 20162 votes

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so? i'm cool with that.

He gave you three options and you went off on a tangent instead of suggesting the third option.

Also, as someone who gets a lot of 20 minute games and has had my share of long queue times, might I add you're throwing the most entitled fit right now.

AhristocatsDec 31, 20161 votes

idgaf what you're cool with

i don't want an hour of queue time

AMYS GRAVEJan 1, 20171 votes

We have long queue times already because people constantly dodge. We've reached a point where autofill isn't the solution to long queue times, its the cause of them.

AhristocatsJan 1, 20171 votes

before autofill master tier players were waiting 55 min to play

AMYS GRAVEJan 1, 20171 votes

So we've lowered the queue times for 200 people by increasing them for 20 million.

High elo matchmaking is always going to be a problem, who do you match faker against and keep the match fair? The pool of people of equal skill up there is really small, so either queue times are stupid long or games are going to be unfair.

AhristocatsJan 1, 20171 votes

we lowered the queue times for 200 people yes if you become master next year would you like to have 1 hour queue time? i don't think so

and we didn't increase them for 20 million, they were also lowered

AMYS GRAVEJan 1, 20171 votes

if you become master next year would you like to have 1 hour queue time? i don't think so

Of course not, but i wouldn't expect riot to cater their game exclusively to me because i'm part of the 0.001%.

and we didn't increase them for 20 million, they were also lowered

I can't believe that. Queue dodge after queue dodge says otherwise.

EDIT: between last night and this morning i've had 8 queue dodges in a row without getting into a game due to autofill, but please tell me more about how autofill is shortening queue times.

EDIT 2: 9 dodges before getting into game that i got autofilled off of support. I guess the 10th time is the charm?

EDIT 3: another 3 dodges and a remake totaling a 30 min queue time for a silver support main. Good thing we have autofill to lower our queue times ...

DarkRitualDec 31, 20163 votes

20 is a LOW amount. Like, you'll dream of the days of 20 min queues when you're sitting through your 4th dodge because someone is locking Yasuo support because of lower queue times.

DynikusDec 31, 20162 votes

I'll go with option 4. Remove autofill, remove flex queue, and have the queue times of season 6.

CalabokDec 31, 20161 votes

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Irelia BotDec 31, 20161 votes

Insulting me is really going to make you sound intelligent.

AnagsDec 31, 20161 votes

Except season six queue times were flex queue. Soloq would be different. So that can't happen.

DynikusDec 31, 20162 votes

The reason queue times would be terrible currently without autofill is most likely thanks to them deciding to split ranked into two separate queues, making it where there are less players in each. If everyone was in the same queue, ie: how it was in season 6, I don't see any reason why queue times wouldn't be similar to how they were then.

Spicy RiceJan 1, 20171 votes

I've had queue times that literally ran out the timer on the old client

DynikusJan 1, 20171 votes

I have a hard time believing that. There were challenger players with 2 hour queues before, and the timer never ran out. You're in the most populated elo. I think the longest queue I ever had was 11 minutes.

Spicy RiceJan 1, 20171 votes

The timer on the old client was 1 hour. And it happened back when I was in plat elo (a bit after the beginning of the season)

PennsDec 31, 20161 votes

Id rather have the current system without autofill in lower elos again cause I get autofilled after like 5 min, Id rather wait 3-5 more lol

1wolfpackDec 31, 20161 votes

mid or feed all day erryday

Dark NephthysDec 31, 20161 votes

Autofill is just a bad idea imo. People want to focus mostly on their main few roles when it comes to ranked so they only want to play those 1-2 roles. Adding auto fill just says to them "Hey we know you are very good at X role, and most likely got where you are now in ranked by playing that role mostly. But we don't want to make you wait an extra 3-5 mins so we will shove you into the Support role just to save time. Sounds good? Nah JK I don't care if thats alright or if you feel confident with that role. You are going there".

Maybe if the Auto fill were to wait a little longer before it does so then it can be alright. My que times when I get my roles are generally 2-3 mins, and even less some times (I usually do Mid/Top so it's the most popular to), but the times I would get auto filled it happens at like 5-6 Mins. If the que time was at 20 mins and then gave up on me and auto fill me then that's one thing but I have no problem waiting another 5-10 mins to get one of my roles.

LauchmelderJan 1, 20171 votes

Autofill isn't even half as bad as people make it out to be.

I got mid while being "autofill protected" as mid/support. It DOES take your primary into account.

Dark NephthysJan 1, 20171 votes

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Autofill isn't even half as bad as people make it out to be.

I got mid while being "autofill protected" as mid/support. It DOES take your primary into account.

You were auto filled protected though, so you are always going to be in one of the 2 roles you selected. And as far as Mid/Support roles goes, you will eventually get Mid even if you had support in one of your options but it's still going to give you support like 90% of the time. You might not have a problem with Auto fill because I'm assuming you mostly go Mid/Support when you play, so the times they give you support you would get auto fill protection making sure you are going to be one of those 2 roles again next time. So if you do mostly Mid/Support, you almost never get auto filled.

Also I'm not saying this as some huge hatred of support, because I actually like support but only when I'm duo with some one bot lane. I'm just saying that I feel auto fill is just bad design when it comes to ranked, because Ranked is suppose to be competitive where you play your most comfortable roles/champions and climb but that's not easy if you get auto filled into one of your worst roles.

LauchmelderJan 1, 20171 votes

I actually get more mid than support lately.

We got different opinions on the matter, what I can agree on is that autofill makes ranked less competitive.

It is neccessary for shorter queue times in higher elo. My best bet would be: deleting autofill up until platinum and queue times won't be a problem. Plat+ would have something along the lines of 10+ minutes without autofill.

Dark NephthysJan 1, 20171 votes

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I actually get more mid than support lately.

We got different opinions on the matter, what I can agree on is that autofill makes ranked less competitive.

It is neccessary for shorter queue times in higher elo. My best bet would be: deleting autofill up until platinum and queue times won't be a problem. Plat+ would have something along the lines of 10+ minutes without autofill.

Yea I can see it being useful for higher elo though. I think a good solution would be to give people to option to allow auto fill or not. Like instead of the "Auto fill protection" message on the bottom, maybe have a check mark where you can set if you wouldn't mind auto fill. That way people that don't mind auto fill can still use it if needed, but people who has no problem waiting another 5-10 minutes to get their main roles can do so. For normals I wouldn't care to much about auto fill being on or off since it forces you to practice roles you might not be as experienced with which is honestly what normals really is about now.

AnagsDec 31, 20161 votes

What makes you think they will be 20 min rather than 30 to 40? Especially if you are trying to plat mid or jungle.

Irelia BotJan 1, 20172 votes

To give people false hope

AhristocatsDec 31, 20161 votes

mid or feed

Irelia BotDec 31, 20161 votes

I would be fine with the return of no role selection.

But I was always fine with playing support some games.

AhristocatsDec 31, 20161 votes

that's the good thing, almost no one can play support that's how i got master in season 5, and that's why i want old selection back

TyrekGoldenspearDec 31, 20161 votes

Autofill. I can play all roles decently

BroadSlabberDec 31, 20161 votes

People who say mid or feed usually just end up feeding.As for the question give me the 20 minute queues. If i want a faster queue I will just play support and get 30 second timers.

Rub A DubJan 1, 20171 votes

id do 24 hour queue times rather than autofill

JVP15Jan 1, 20171 votes

Autofill for sure.

Sincerely,

A Support Main

Troll for TrumpJan 1, 20171 votes

Mid or Feed was the best.

Back when mid and feed(pick order) was still relevant I was just getting into ranked, but it was some of the most fun I've ever had. About a day ago , I had one of the most fun ranked matches in a long time, that reminded me of it. I just got off a tiltede 6 loss streak with a giant clownfiesta of a game and ended up with 44 assists even though I was autofilled into support. In the pursuit of making everything organized and like the LCS, we've made every game stale and the same. We already forced the LCS meta onto the champs and builds we do, we don't have to always force it in how we play, too. The unorganized shitfest of mid or feed in the pick order days were when the games were actually exciting, win or lose.

Normals should be like that, but people don't try in those anymore. And, you have to invest equal, if not more time in normals to get the same sense of enjoyment you do in ranked(you use norms to take a break off ranked, but you have to keep playing norms to have your norm MMR keep up with ranked MMR)

Obviously, this is assuming "mid or feed" means pick order. If not, that should be an option.