What's the point of Draft, since you just get countered? what am I missing?

Weedbro··2 votes·792 views

I mean, you could get to pick last, and then you are the one who gets to counter your lane, but um, that's completely random, isn't it? Yes, you can ban your strongest counter. Too bad every single champ has at least 5 different counters. The only advantage I can see to draft mode is that people's roles are chosen before it begins, so there's not that annoying "calling lanes" phase like in blind.

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Paladin 0f Life2 votes

Counter picks are a joke until diamond. Learn your champ and play. Counters are only as strong as you let them.

Weedbro1 votes

Really because, like say, I go Rammus top, I have armor reds, scaling armor yellows, scaling magic resist blues, and armor quints, tank mastery too. I buy cloth armor my first buy. Darius can at level 6, start up hemmorhage, then once he has 3 stacks, dive me under the tower, ult, and ignite me, and I die. As Rammus, under the turret, Using my W, stacking as much armor as possible. Darius can -still- dive me under the turret and kill me and run away. Meanwhile, what would happen if I went Darius vs. Teemo or Jayce? He'd just kite me all day long and destroy my ass.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

That is literally the point im making. Not sure if sarcasm. Rammus counters AD yet most ADCs can kill him 1v1 in lane. Or look at Fizz v veigar depends on how good u are

Moooose22 votes

I'm sorry but this may be the dumbest post I've seen in a long time. Draft changes everything. Literally everything.

Weedbro1 votes

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I'm sorry but I just made the dumbest post I've seen in a long time. Draft changes very little.

maybe try reading comprehension and you won't seem so dumb, that's my advice. My post was "why bother with Draft if you're just going to get countered?" It doesn't matter what runes you use and what spells you take if you're countered, you're not going to get any CS, meanwhile, the other guy is going to get ALL the CS. Thus you fail the lane without the jungler babysitting you, guaranteed.

La Belle Sauvage1 votes

Counters aren't a huge deal until Gold or higher. I have won vs almost all my counters. And have my tail handed to me by champs I counter.

Your argument based on counter picking us weak because all it means is the champs kit is ideal to deal with your kit.

Counters do not automatically win.

Weedbro1 votes

I can accept this, how, though? How does a ranged top not automatically beat a melee guy, unless they are like, Yasuo? How does Teemo not always beat Darius, without the intervention of a jungler?

Moooose21 votes

Draft makes it more of a team game, where you counter them and they counter you. Your post is stupid and no amount of reading comprehension, or lack of reading comprehension would lead to any other conclusion to somebody with an IQ higher than that of a sea cucumber.

FireDrizzle1 votes

At least you know if you need mr runes or not.

Thairn1 votes

Blind Pick: Own team synergy is the only concept to worry about. Enemy team is unknown, so you can basically just play what you want and experiment strictly with your own team comp.

Draft Pick: Enemy team comp matters now too. Banning out key members that hold a team comp together (Think Malphite for a Yasuo Comp) that would counter your team. The real advantage is just that you can bring runes that have more significance and change your summoner spells. Overall, draft encourages team play A LOT MORE.

---> EX: I know my lane match-up is a counter to me, so I'll instead run Exhaust/Teleport to alleviate a "safe" laning phase. Or, since I'm against a (Burst mage) I'll have flat health yellows instead of armor. Knowing who your opponent is in setup and being countered is still better than not knowing, and then fighting a Vlad with practically useless 9 armor for 12 minutes.

I honestly don't get why people even play blind pick if they want to just call lanes anyways to be honest. I thought the entire point of blind pick was to play a specific champion and not get it banned in champ select.

TL;DR: The point of draft is you can prepare to be countered in a specific way, and show your ability to play as a team, rather than display individual skill.

Icarus UwU1 votes

The point of draft pick is to give normal games more of that competitive feel to it. In blind pick nothing is banned and people tend to troll pick and mess around a lot more. Yes in draft that happens to but you will find more people who actually try.

Thairn1 votes

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The point of draft pick is to give normal games more of that competitive feel to it. In blind pick nothing is banned and people tend to troll pick and mess around a lot more. Yes in draft that happens to but you will find more people who actually try.

Draft is like, Ranked Lite.item 2031

Infernape1 votes

And Flex is Ranked Mini.

Icarus UwU1 votes

Flex is ranked "special" brother Kappa

KoKoboto1 votes

So you can ban Janna.

Darkdemon6531 votes

Counterpicking and picking safe things are important aspects of competitive gaming.

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