Ever since the Pre-Season started everyone and I mean EVERYONE that I spoke to hates it.
Even most LoL streamers on Twitch just can't take it anymore. You can tell how miserable they feel playing this shit.
I wonder how much longer will Riot remain ignorant like this, I know they don't care but at this rate even the addicts will quit this game.
BBKong20 votesAs long as people keep buying Yasuo skins
Hügö15 votesGood thing me and 3 friends just found anothet game we actual have fun with. So vOv
fatalis35718 votesI am thinking about leaving too
iMidg3t5 votesI am thinking about leaving too
If i had better PC would prolly leave too. But atm, the only games that I like to play (or feel like playing) and that i can run are csgo and League. But ever since new patch came in csgo the performance dropped massively for me, so yea... this is the only thing that i can play.
Hügö1 votesI started Albion Online a game with very low detailed graphic but it is a shitton of fun.
Akumu14 votesThis entire pre-season should be reverted, its straight trash. and i knew it would be trash the moment it was announced.
All this pre season does is add more snowballing and remove even more individual player agency. Frankly i dont see myself playing this season if this shit isnt removed. Dragon changes were a terrible idea.
Grouchy Poro9 voteslethality needed nerfs what did they do buff it instead YIKES
g0rilazzz8 votesGuys please type less. I can't read all the paragraphs; what are u writing ? books ?
JUNGLE BAD BECAUSE LOW LEVELS simple. If you want to get ahead in levels, pick Olaf. Only problem is u are useless lategame.
HAve fun
wolvius7 votesGuys please type less. I can't read all the paragraphs; what are u writing ? books ?
picks Olaf. Only problem is u are useless lategame.
HAve fun
Laughes in elder dragon
What streamers don't like the addition of alcoves? I thought everyone would love being able to fuck around in them and essentially increase their death timers...........and more fucking lethality
https://media.tenor.com/images/1f92eb0f1c4d7dd1a3784c5defafb7d6/tenor.gif
Worst JG Wins1 votesGuys please type less. I can't read all the paragraphs; what are u writing ? books ?
JUNGLE BAD BECAUSE LOW LEVELS simple. If you want to get ahead in levels, pick Olaf. Only problem is u are useless lategame.
HAve fun
Olaf will still be level 4 when his solo laners hit 6. Shit's not viable. JG is literally just a coinflip.
g0rilazzz2 votesWhy lvl 4 ? At least lvl 5. He has a fast camp clear
Blue Shift8 votesAre you just now realizing the game is incredibly broken and not fun to play?
Streamers and people have been complaining for years now, this pre-season is just more piled onto the massive pile they already have.
Teddy Two Gloves7 votesWhat has made it so much worse in your own opinion?
SymbolicFear67 votesJungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9.
Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone.
Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play.
Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
Teddy Two Gloves8 votesIm going to start on the support thing, as its my main role (This is my toplane account, Im a low diamond support player.)
I completely disagree with your support point, and it really just sounds like another complete circlejerk. Aftershock was completely and utterly overpowered, and the health regen on Targons being gone is completely negligible. In competeive I can see this being an issue, as they can punish things better, but in solo queue I can say for a fact this doesnt matter at all, until at least Challenger.
Jungle, again, feels like a giant circle jerk from a Jungle main. Every single change apparently "ruins jungle". You should be behind laners, you're literally playing PvE** and can impact THE ENTIRE MAP. If its true junglers are consistently 3 levels behind then maybe that is a little much, but again I don't feel like that is the case at all.
Top lane, oh toplane, I will agree it is a complete mess but I don't see this season/preseason being the cause. Its more of a balance philosophy failure
I have played since Xerath was released, and feel like this is a complete over reaction. You're pinning the game you love progressively becoming different on 1 pre season IMO, you just don't like the game anymore.
Hong Kong Annie13 votesPeople that think jungle is PvE with a global presence are either delusional or have never played jungle. Sure your primary income is from camps but the whole time you are trying to apply pressure on the map matain a presence on the enemy jungle and keep vision of the river. It's like saying a lane is PvE because you farm minions and never kill your opponent, that's just not how it works.
Silent Reaper25 votesJungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9.
Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone.
Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play.
Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
I want to highly disagree on a number of these opinions.
All your points are lacking any evidence and you fail to see the bigger picture. If you played any of the under tier 50% of champions you would be happy, but no, your favourite broken champion in X role got nerfed and now you can't abuse it anymore and you feed games because that's the handicap you relied on.
Git Gud Noob.
KalokasIsMyDaddy8 votes[{quoted}](name=Silent Reaper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-21T16:45:10.814+0000)
I want to highly disagree on a number of these opinions.
- Jungle isn't a trash role now, they just made farming Jungle more viable so that junglers like Lee Sin cant spend everygame trying to farm 10 kills while everyone is still under 100cs.
- Support is MUCH better now. Poke abusable champions don't have mana regen or proc damage to abuse poke and Tanks don't have the HP Regen to simply ignoring poke from ADC. The entire item change made supports weaker early game (which they were broken) and made them scale better into late game.
- You are literally repeating "champions riot wants you to play". What champions??? They nerfed conqueror, gave Doran shield to counter ranged tops and added 2 rift heralds so they could influence games more. Sure sanguine blade is broken, but that's an experiment that Riot is trying out to let top splitpushers keep some of their old power.
All your points are lacking any evidence and you fail to see the bigger picture. If you played any of the under tier 50% of champions you would be happy, but no, your favourite broken champion in X role got nerfed and now you can't abuse it anymore and you feed games because that's the handicap you relied on.
Git Gud Noob.
I play top and jungle mainly, perhaps top more so. I was driven away from jungle because it felt so shit to play honestly. I main Yi and Kha and that's just about it. I'd spam these champs again and again because they were too powerful for a normal jungler to beat, I'd secure drakes every game. It got completely stale. Every game I played it was either stomp or get stomped. No in-between.
I only got to play support with Senna's release, I did main Support a couple seasons ago for a few months, but I switched to jungle. Anyway, I hate the new support shit we have going on, I found out that it's basically "spam every mage or poke champion and wait". I liked Senna but she's busted and I just got bored of the same champions every game.
Top has been shit for ages. Ever since turret plates, I just abuse Trynda and Garen (Garen even more so now because his rework is funny) to destroy my opponent and infinitely extend my lead because turret plates make sense. Now with 2 rift heralds it feels like they are trying to split junglers apart (quite literally), because you have to secure drakes but also gank top often to secure a lead for the heralds.
I have mixed opinions about this game ever since last preseason. As soon as I find a replacement game, I'm probably gone.
Ηuawei9 votes[{quoted}](name=Silent Reaper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-21T16:45:10.814+0000)
I want to highly disagree on a number of these opinions.
- Jungle isn't a trash role now, they just made farming Jungle more viable so that junglers like Lee Sin cant spend everygame trying to farm 10 kills while everyone is still under 100cs.
- Support is MUCH better now. Poke abusable champions don't have mana regen or proc damage to abuse poke and Tanks don't have the HP Regen to simply ignoring poke from ADC. The entire item change made supports weaker early game (which they were broken) and made them scale better into late game.
- You are literally repeating "champions riot wants you to play". What champions??? They nerfed conqueror, gave Doran shield to counter ranged tops and added 2 rift heralds so they could influence games more. Sure sanguine blade is broken, but that's an experiment that Riot is trying out to let top splitpushers keep some of their old power.
All your points are lacking any evidence and you fail to see the bigger picture. If you played any of the under tier 50% of champions you would be happy, but no, your favourite broken champion in X role got nerfed and now you can't abuse it anymore and you feed games because that's the handicap you relied on.
Git Gud Noob.
Elo shaming.
Worst JG Wins12 votes[{quoted}](name=Silent Reaper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-21T16:45:10.814+0000)
I want to highly disagree on a number of these opinions.
- Jungle isn't a trash role now, they just made farming Jungle more viable so that junglers like Lee Sin cant spend everygame trying to farm 10 kills while everyone is still under 100cs.
Farming Junglers aren't viable at all. 95% of the Jungler champs can't even keep up with spawn timers if they AFK farm. Even if you AFK farm you fall 2-3 levels behind solo laners and are like 1k+ gold down which means when the lane phase is over you're weak in skirmishes and teamfights. Role is actually just unplayable
LightswornLance3 votesLol wtf. I main Mundo one of the FEW junglers who can actually clear at the new respawn rate and I am still underleveled for the ENTIRE game. The only useful thing about the new respawn rate is that I can farm my bot side, gank bot, recall, and repeat.
Curious Kat4 votesJungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9.
Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone.
Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play.
Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
AMEN
Sire Hippington3 votesBut in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet...
pretty much the biggest issue, since i've lost all hope in lol returning to it's roots. The sad thing is that Dawngate actually was just that, a moba that felt pretty much like old LoL with it's own twist, but because lol WAS old lol at the time, dawngate couldn't compete and got shut down by EA. If Dawngate was released after S6, i think most LoL veterans would have switched sooner or later...
ΛVICII4 votesJungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9.
Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone.
Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play.
Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
So let me understand it real quick :
Jungle is now a trash role because I can´t camp every single lane with 10 ganks per minute and still ahead in level without farming anymore.
Support is now a trash role to play in while the top bans of the game right now are on supports like (Senna , Nautilus, Morgana etc).
Top lane is now trash but wait ???? It is just the same but I cannot abuse anymore champs like jax because they removed spear of sojin AFTER ONE YEAR of being completly broken.
You had YOUR TIME to climb with YOUR STUFF, now it is OTHER type of players YEAR to climb too.
Learn the game, I was silver like you too when I started but I wanted to get better and i improved.
If you are the same elo since season 5 with 47% winrates type is not anyone fault. And you should look at it.
You need to learn a role not all of them. Stay in tha role, test champs and get some of them to be your mains. Play them at the max you can.
You need a lot of improve in a lot of aspects.
When you did a walk there are people that took 300 times that walk already that is why people improve and get to see the game very different.
SymbolicFear4 votesJungle is a trash role because the changes have severely limited possible champions, as picking a farm heavy jungler makes you 3 levels behind everyone else and you never get to participate in any teamfights without being nothing but a massive detriment. Support is a trash role because its not tank supports its hook supports and leona is a special case, morgana is a poke support so that just helps my case. Top lane has always been trash and they refuse to fix it, and uhhh how was i abusing anything? If you look at my profile, youll see i play every single role, every single champion, and my game knowledge is a lot higher than my game skill these days, but the game isnt even in a good place to even bother trying to climb rank, why should i care other than "some kid on the forums called me silver trash" wupdy do, when every single level of play say the same things I am, kinda makes your points invalid and shows you just trying to be self righteous and look down on lower ranks despite it making you look like an idiot. I dont spam "Jax with Spear of Shojin" hell, when i played jax i dont think i even used spear of shojin really but a couple of times all year long. So get off your high horse cause its made of a giant pile of dumbass.
You need to do your research and think on more than just rank when it comes to a persons observations and opinions on the state of the game.
9 01 votesJungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9.
Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone.
Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play.
Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
I honestly feel you. I'm kinda confused when I'm playing jungle, it just feels very off. I feel like If I try and gank I'm still behind in levels but when im permafarming im still behind anyways. I'm just not used to it so I might just avoid playing jungle this season even though I don't know how long I can play this game wthout playing my darling evelynn.
Sleeping Bat7 votesWell lol is dead by 2022, this is why rito start new games. So its time to move on and forgot about lol, even rito buried it, so let it go.
Bon3 Obliter87 votesi agree this game is not even fun anymore... all those changes ruined the game no new players wants to join and i understand . keep going no one will play this shitty game anymore
CourtWizardAhri6 votesHey, recovered(ing?) addict here, while I am currently banned for the next 9 days; Its been more of a blessing and ive been busy playing other games anyway. I really only play this game because I own all my favorite champion skins and have almost 6 yrs exp. on the rift. I joined around season 4 but what ive come to realize is that now that games are normalized there are lots of people who only like to fuck with people's games learning about ranked and ruining the experience for others (imagine getting the asshole who went 0/7 in the same match two games in a row in ranked). I think getting penalized for leaving a casual match is stupid but at the same time I understand that unlike other games league of legends cant just re queue new players into a game already 10 minutes in. According to this community its better to lose slowly in 4v6 and be stuck in a game for 20+ minutes of their lives than to run it down mid and letting the enemy snowball so they can end in 10 minutes.
LordGeovanni5 votesFor as long as adc and mage mains arent crying i cant kill anything. because they did 40% of a tanks max hp in 1 move rather than 65%
Starcraft243ver4 votesEver since the Pre-Season started everyone and I mean EVERYONE that I spoke to hates it.
Even most LoL streamers on Twitch just can't take it anymore. You can tell how miserable they feel playing this shit.
I wonder how much longer will Riot remain ignorant like this, I know they don't care but at this rate even the addicts will quit this game.
Pre-season means they are trying out stuff, so I know most of the player base is totaly stupid and can't grasp this but, yeah they know it and are fine with it, that's pretty much the same thing every year and yet they are still earning tons of money. So, not only they know it, but they are used to it.
So stop whinning and take 5 seconds to think before posting next time.
BLIGHTBRINGER8 votesPre-season means they are trying out stuff, so I know most of the player base is totaly stupid and can't grasp this but, yeah they know it and are fine with it, that's pretty much the same thing every year and yet they are still earning tons of money. So, not only they know it, but they are used to it.
So stop whinning and take 5 seconds to think before posting next time.
It's not even just the Pre-Season, it's the entire future of Season 10 and whatever comes in the other Seasons afterwards.
But yes i'm sure giving a 5 Champion Team an undodgeble execute (unless you use Zhonias/Stopwatch) is fair. I'm sure it gives Champions who rely on drain tanking playable (Warwick being an example). There's already Grievous Wounds everywhere and not only now that they can't sustain properly, now they will be executed by a dragon for being low enough.. When their entire niche is supposed to be about their health coming to a near end and then surprising with Sustain like in Warwick's case, except now Elder will just zap your ass.
The fact that people have been bitching about the state of game pace, overall damage, lack of counterplay to everything, and the game not having any strategy anymore since season 8 should say a lot.
Yet what they do over the course of 2 seasons is just shove more of that shit in people's throats.
Need Gold 4 Tent10 votesThey said that last season. And the season before that. We all know how that turned out.
Mafros4 votesYeah, every preseason is batshit crazy. That's the point of it.
Akumu5 votesUhh no? You're wrong.
Preseason is not the time for trying stuff out. Their internal preseason development time is the time when they try things out.
How many times have changes in preseason been completely reverted before the season goes live???? ** ZERO** Preseason changes always go live with minor changes. This preseason doesnt need minor changes, it needs to be removed.
Seems the 'stupid' person that 'cant grasp' things is you.
Starcraft243ver2 votesUhh no? You're wrong.
Preseason is not the time for trying stuff out. Their internal preseason development time is the time when they try things out.
How many times have changes in preseason been completely reverted before the season goes live???? ** ZERO** Preseason changes always go live with minor changes. This preseason doesnt need minor changes, it needs to be removed.
Seems the 'stupid' person that 'cant grasp' things is you.
The only thing that should go is the elder drake buff. I'm happy with everything else in this preseason :
They :
People wanted a more macro oriented and strategic game so they gave more importances to rift herald and drakes and you are not happy ? Nothing they can do will make you happy, you built up a false idea of how good the game was in the first season you played and you forgot everything that was absolutely BAD.
I play since season 4 and i'm still having fun, the day I stop having fun I just quit and maybe come back one year later to see it it changed in a way that fits my will. I do not throw a tantrum on the boards.
And YES preseason is meant for trying out stuff.
GilxeN2 votesThe only thing that should go is the elder drake buff. I'm happy with everything else in this preseason :
They :
- Tonned down damages giving half the drakes defensive stats instead of offensive
- Nerfed the fire drake
- Gave more resistance to plates when multiple players gather to kill an early turret
- Nerfed a bit the overganking junglers
- Nerfed the bot XP and gave toplane xp a boost so toplane is revelant again and best adc does not always win
- Nerfed damages from frosthang
People wanted a more macro oriented and strategic game so they gave more importances to rift herald and drakes and you are not happy ? Nothing they can do will make you happy, you built up a false idea of how good the game was in the first season you played and you forgot everything that was absolutely BAD.
I play since season 4 and i'm still having fun, the day I stop having fun I just quit and maybe come back one year later to see it it changed in a way that fits my will. I do not throw a tantrum on the boards.
And YES preseason is meant for trying out stuff.
Mountain drake scales only for late game, but what's the point of the late game when Dragon soul will execute at low hp threshold?
Infernal drake nerf influence early game is not significantly huge, in overall I don't see damage reduction all I see they added more damage creep to work with.
If u didn't open your eyes yet, it's time to do it.
FartWorshipper4 votesRunescape is having Double XP Weekend, so I been playing that and some Steam games for the last few months. Only played League to get the 10 year anniversary rewards, but the game is in such a shit state and has been for so long, I don't see myself ever coming back. Just come here to shitpost and see what else RioTencent has managed to fuck up. This shit started as far back as Season 4, when they reworked Alistar because people were playing him successfully as a jungler, but RioTencent didn't want him as a jungler, so they forced him into support role. That was the earliest I can remember RioTencent reworking a champ not because they were disgustingly broken (beta Jax) but because they wanted to force a meta. At least it was mildly subtle back then? Now, this rinse-and-repeat cycle of releasing/reworking a champ with such an overloaded kit that you HAVE to pick/ban them to stand a chance is so obvious. Kai'Sa is more complained about than fucking Yasuo now, but she sells skins and makes flashy plays at Worlds, so she won't be getting addressed any time soon. Been playing since beginning of S3, but with removal of 3v3 and such obvious forced metas, think I'm finally done with League.
5050BS3 votesFor as long and KR and ZH keep buying skins.
Vonyalo2 votesWorlds numbers speak different story
Spôôked6 votesimagine thinking that balancing the game around 1% of the players and pissing off the other 99% is a good thing to do
Weiner the Pooh2 votesAs long as daddy Tencent tells them to.
Clockwork Mouse2 votesThey been at it for 2 years now, why not a 3rd?
GilxeN2 votesThis season gonna be fun, champs who needed to one shot in 2 abilities, now can do in one ability, because execute will finish you off.
YAAY great game, enjoyable, can we add a trinket called "Mine": when you step on it you are instantly killed, (but no gold credit will be granted for the trinket owner).
God If I would want to make this game broken, Riot contact me please I have so many terrible ideas to ruin the game.
BLIGHTBRINGER2 votesThis season gonna be fun, champs who needed to one shot in 2 abilities, now can do in one ability, because execute will finish you off.
YAAY great game, enjoyable, can we add a trinket called "Mine": when you step on it you are instantly killed, (but no gold credit will be granted for the trinket owner).
God If I would want to make this game broken, Riot contact me please I have so many terrible ideas to ruin the game.
ModUlanopo1 votesAs this thread has devolved into complaining and bickering, it has been locked.
If you have any questions about this moderation action, don't hesitate to reach out to the Boards Moderation Team via:
~ Ulanopo
