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How the fuck do I counter the insane damage that is in the game right now?

TrikzterzArma··77 votes·17,375 views

HOW do I counter getting oneshot by everything?? And don't tell me to buy resistance, because it is useless. Tanks are getting melted almost as fast as squishy ones.

The damage in the game is so fucking stupid. I've played since Season 1, and I've never been this close to quitting this game before. There is no strategy WHATSOEVER in this game anymore. It's literally just a game of ''who can oneshot the other one the quickest'', and it's starting to really get on my nerve.

As SOON as something gets nerfed in this game, it quickly gets compensate-buffed in form of damage, or things gets nerfed in form of less resistense.

Lower the damage in the game. This isn't fun anymore.

Edit. How often do people even counterpick anymore? It never happens. Everyone just picks the meta champs with highest damage, because that's how you win games

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Lets have shrex34 votes

You one-shot them before they one-shot you

TrikzterzArma36 votes

That's just the thing. It isn't fun. I didn't ''outplay'' someone just because I oneshot them first. There's no fun in it

AR URF1 votes

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Elohaven6 votes

That's not an outplay.

That's a "should've been smart and you shouldn't have ult'd when in my field of vision"

pixelvoxel4 votes

I've come to accept that no part of League involves outplays. Anything that looks like what you'd call an "outplay" is just the enemy being too stupid to live and you taking advantage.

SooFr0sty3 votes

League of failures is League of Outplay for the other guy

CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes

Play Ekko withitem 3140 and ingenious Hunter and rush CDR cap

kurnubego27 votes

And someday, the young ones will realize, that for tactical game play to resurface we need to find ways back to the tank meta.

DoktorKaiser18 votes

And not the meta where fucking tanks are dealing more base damage than any other class. We need tank meta from season 2 and season 3 when ADCs bought a tank item, let alone other classes. Teamfights involved multiple spell rotations, MANY OUTPLAYS (something that just doesn't exist any more) and tactical awareness combined with teamwork. Funniest thing is that back then regular gamepaly was same as LCS because it was perfectly balanced, nowadays assassins are breaking the game in SoloQ while mages are garbage, meanwhile in LCS mages still "dominate".

kurnubego1 votes

You can still find success with picks like Swain (tanky) or Brand (reliable stun super high damage).. but I can't imagine what kind of hell it's for Xerath players.

Arcane Blue Boi1 votes

Oh look, somebody who aknowledges Xerath is a thing. item 3070

Off Meta Evan2 votes

If you legitimately believe the game was balanced in those seasons, you're putting nostalgia googles on. The sustain meta, old darius that had a spin so fast you had 0 counter play, the top lane trio of Renekton Shyvana DrMundo. Granted maybe those times were better for other roles than top lane so maybe i'm in the minority. One thing i will say is that damage champions should be based around full damage, i don't trust riot when it comes to balance between damage and tank, Remember when item 3025 was on literally every tank and they one shot you? item 3053 Kalista these two things ruined lives, and Graves is a mess of a champion who is solely balanced around being a tanky damage dealer. There is a reason why fighters are always a pain in the ass to balance, typically when you make something a mix between damage and tank, they're either too good and beat out actual damage dealers, or too shit and don't get picked.

DoktorKaiser4 votes

It wasn't perfect but it was infinite times better, more balanced, more fun and required more skill and brain usage than today's league which is literally made for braindead idiots who unfortunately make most of the population. Now just pick the best assassin or AD champion who has 1000000 dashes, dash from half the map and 1 shot anything that moves. Such game, much fun.

Arcane Blue Boi1 votes

well atleast you had more than 1 second to live before getting 100-0 with little to no efford by target and pseudo skillshot abilities (by pseudo skillshot i mean for example talon's W, fizz's E, zed's E etc)

FCJAAAAGOOOO6 votes

Really...armor items deserve more armor. Bigger, better armor items. They're not expensive enough for their effects, but too expensive for their stats.

alagore1 votes

Not more armor. That's fucking useless for tanks right now because of IE and Conq. Give tanks back their ability to get health. Rember 1370 hp warmogs? Give us that. Rito nerfed it saying they wanted resists to feel impactful, well they failed miserably by making them useless.

CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes

DrMundo

HungryAngry2SPP25 votes

Stay in fountain. They can't kill you, if they can't reach you https://i.imgur.com/ceqSpHg.jpg[/img]

TrikzterzArma16 votes

Tell that to Lux xD

Eons33 votes

Karthus Jhin Rumble Gangplank Graves So approxiamtely how far back are you planning on standing again? I um, need to calibrate these umm. don't mind us standing here posing no threat to you.

PopcornBunni15 votes

Only doable with ridiculous innate damage reduction in a champion's kit.

Garen MasterYi Warwick Irelia Alistar Galio Annie Braum %

Malphite Sejuani Burst protection with resistances

Kayle Tryndamere Taric Kindred immunity

Any normal tank or tanky fighter is nonviable as an option

Poske1 votes

Garen

  • his damage reduction lasts like 0.75 seconds. So no

MasterYi

  • Perhaps in Urf mode where you cant target him

Warwick

  • good example

Irelia

  • decent example

Alistar

  • good example

Galio

  • good example

Annie

  • wut? that mini stat gain doesnt matter

Braum

  • good example

Malphite Sejuani Burst protection with resistances

  • Both are bad examples 600 armor/mr Sejuani first few seconds of passive never dies but she dies imedieatly after dmg reduction > armor/mr gains

Kayle

  • Idk how to rate this. Living 2.5 seconds is tanky?

Tryndamere

  • idk how to rate this. he still sucks at teamfights despite living longer then most tanks

Taric Kindred immunity -not the worst examples, but also not ideal examples

I would like to add to a good example list Shen Gragas

Tankines in league is at trash state all together

BrightWîngs2 votes

{quoted}

Garen

  • his damage reduction lasts like 0.75 seconds. So no

MasterYi

  • Perhaps in Urf mode where you cant target him

Warwick

  • good example

Irelia

  • decent example

Alistar

  • good example

Galio

  • good example

Annie

  • wut? that mini stat gain doesnt matter

Braum

  • good example

Malphite Sejuani Burst protection with resistances

  • Both are bad examples 600 armor/mr Sejuani first few seconds of passive never dies but she dies imedieatly after dmg reduction > armor/mr gains

Kayle

  • Idk how to rate this. Living 2.5 seconds is tanky?

Tryndamere

  • idk how to rate this. he still sucks at teamfights despite living longer then most tanks

Taric Kindred immunity -not the worst examples, but also not ideal examples

I would like to add to a good example list Shen Gragas

Tankines in league is at trash state all together

Bro what? Annie gets a 40% damage resistace how you gonna tell anyone that's a "mini stat gain" almost half the damage you take is reduced wtf lol

Poske1 votes

She used to gain like 30-40 mr / armor

BrightWîngs3 votes

{quoted}

She used to gain like 30-40 mr / armor

Ok but she doesn't now I don't see your point

Crescent Dusk4 votes

Not really. I went 12/1/8 on my Garen, stomped a Yasuo into 0/7 in lane.

Didn't matter, because while I had to go be a tank for our group to not get shredded by their botlane, Yasuo casually farmed split lanes.

And then after getting trounced and me with a full build ninja tabi, randuin, trinity force, steraks, and GA, Yasuo built bloodthirst on top of his PD and IE and proceeded to outheal my damage so badly that his healthbar didn't even move as he proceeded to shred through all my armor and kill me in less than 7 seconds.

Tank characters are useless when life steal and true damage in this game is so retarded OP.

It's why Darius is a viable juggernaut while no other juggernaut is viable. Be cause he does shitloads of true damage that also resets cd with his ult and he has massive AD steroirds, built in armor pen, and a heal that scales with number of targets hit.

And even Darius can't kill a Fiora or Yasuo or Tryndamere or Jax with Bloodthirster built because the autoattack DPS turned into true damage is so ridiculous.

S0kaX10 votes

You don't. Unless you're Alistar .

Naymliss11 votes

item 3031 item 1412 MasterYi +Conqueror

S0kaX1 votes

60% dmg reduced and probly 2500 hp Also stun him with something.

The Taco Kat4 votes

True damage isn't affected by anything. It will always do the amount of damage it states.

Hellmaximus13 votes

{quoted}

You don't. Unless you're Alistar .

Alistair can't reduce true damage. [zombie-nunu-tears]

Talh10 votes

Was just about to come make a similar rage post when I saw this. I agree. There is absolutely no skill, thinking, or outplay involved in the game anymore. Zed, Talon, Rengar, Yasuo need to be banned every game, and if they aren't, they completely take over the game and just one-shot everybody.

I was just in a game as Jhin... built ninja tabi and rushed GA early and i still couldn't cast an ability before i was dead to rengar coming out of stealth... literally would be in a ball of 5 with my team and he would jump out and 1 shot me then his team collapses. There is no counterplay to that. I understand these characters are assassins and are supposed to do a lot of damage, but there must be a limit as I currently have no options except "don't get hit." Oh, btw I can't not get hit b/c there's no skill shots with the aforementioned heroes. It's all just target or aa. Seems fair.

smallpigie2 votes

Just wanted to say, half zeds dmg comes from his q, which is a skillshot, rengar doesn't need his bola to kill, but that's also a skill-shot, yasuo q and tornado, which unless he has a knock-up he needs his tornado to ult, yea thats a skill-shot. talons ult and w, i wouldn't really call skill-shots, but they both, and especially his w, CAN be dodged. I'm not saying your point isn't valid, and most champs on this list can completely wipe you even without the skill-shot abilities, but you gave examples of champs without skill-shots, all of which have skill shots. On the other hand rito fix ur game the fact that these guys have skill-shots, and can wipe u from the face of the earth WITHOUT them? FUCK no.

Cunky6 votes

http://quotepix.com/pictures/10138.jpg

Tokogawaruf1 votes

Name checks out

Galiö5 votes

You cant. U just have to kill them before they kill you.

FilDaFunk4 votes

Well, supports have shields that are supposed to counter burst.

Oh, wait.

Summonah123692 votes

Just spam posts and constantly make posts begging Riot to nerf Fizz's GODDAMN ULT.

pistoria2 votes

ulting as shen is fucking pointless now

LibroMastro2 votes

You don't play, that's how you counter it

Nøctμrne2 votes

Counter damage with more damage and a higher level of speed reaction timing within 1 second

StillHittinLicks1 votes

Honestly you sound like someone who became furious because a you did not know how to play against a strong champion and they killed you. Talon (as an example) can definitely "one shot" but its not like he can 100 to 0 pre 6. Even at 6 he still cant 100 to 0 unless hes fed of course. You must've not known how to play against that certain champion that infuriated you because there is no champ that is so ridiculously op that you just cannot beat them and they just one shot you. Every lane phase is you poke and then when theyre low enough, you all in when you know either their most powerful skill is on CD or you outdamage them, which you can tell in builds.

SoarinJC5 votes

Pyke and Darius bot lane. One of the easiest all-ins in the game, and they don't even need 6 to dive an adc + support under a tower 2v2. You can't poke, even as ranged, because they can easily cc and kill you immediately. Even if you're an Ezreal with flash up, that's 2 escape abilities that can be used, and one only every 5 minutes. Pyke has 2 cc abilities, and Darius can flash E, then cc lock you until you're dead or have nothing left. So, you can't push without overextending, you can't let them push you under turret or else you die to a dive. Letting the wave stay even runs the constant risk of being cc'd by either of them, or their jungler coming to kill you. The only way to even remotely win the matchup is if you somehow pick a duo even more broken than Darius/Pyke ( I feel like Brand is involved, but I hate him and his braindead faceroll playstyle) or get a constant camp by your jungler, both of which are unlikely.

StillHittinLicks3 votes

Ive never seen that bot lane so I cant say anything, but that does sound pretty annoying... pyke pull then darius pull with pyke stun...OP. I agree with you on this though lol , I can only imagine.

Eons31 votes

play morgana. Push E, push Q on darius laugh laugh more laugh even more realize your adc just died by dashing directly on top of darius who is rooted anyway.

bbQsauçe4 votes

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StillHittinLicks1 votes

No he cant..., If you're at 50%, he definitely can, but he cannot just full hp you even with ignite at lvl 2. That would be one shotting lmao.

Eons31 votes

talons ad ratios suck compared to most assassins full combo. Its just that he has an extra ability (his passive with RIDICULOUS RATIO) early. Typically speaking talons damage is about 60% that of zeds on a single target. His base damages are not even that impressive. Kha has a 1.3 ad ratio on q on a 3/4 second cd that goes up to 2.6ad, and AATROX has a 4.5 TOTAL ad ratio on 1 ability. Riven hits around 8.3 or 8.5X ad. Talons like at 5.3 or something. Zed can hit around 10 or 11x ad, Wukong is like 7 or 8, depending on how you do it. The problem with talon is everything is long range AND ez to hit.

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