[Genuine Question] Why does Yasuo's Windwall behave like a 360° Brickwall if he stands inside it?

BLIGHTBRINGER··24 votes·10,299 views

I get that that the Windwall must have a mechanic that Yasuo can use with his E where he can dodge incoming abilities for outplay purposes, but what's with it behaving like a 360° spellfree zone?

NOTE: This is a genuine question, and not a complaint post. Also just a quick heads-up, i'm not fully sure if it's the way this works or if it's a bug that I witnessed several times...

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JuiceBoxP17 votes

There is absolutely no reason for it to work this way, but it does.

One of many reasons that people, including myself hate this overloaded champion with free power.

Free damage spam, free mobility spam, free shield, free "EMERGENCY CLICK W TO BE SAFE". Everything in this champ is free

The only weakness this champion has is it gives you the false sense that you can 1v5 and you end up dying

SweedishGunner2 votes

Lost a game yesterday because of that, a really fed Yasuo keeps going in solo and eventually costs us the game.

Nyarlathοtep4 votes

I love the fact that NO yasuo main has actually tried to justify such a thing. Or anyone for that matter.

Spicy Rice2 votes

Why should I try, im on the boards.

If i agree, you use my status as a yasuo main to further bash the champion.

If i disagree, you use my status as a yasuo main to disregard my opinion and still bash the champ.

It's impossible to have an actual argument about his balance here, as he is such a polarizing topic.

Nyarlathοtep2 votes

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Why should I try, im on the boards.

If i agree, you use my status as a yasuo main to further bash the champion.

If i disagree, you use my status as a yasuo main to disregard my opinion and still bash the champ.

It's impossible to have an actual argument about his balance here, as he is such a polarizing topic.

Newsflash, boards arent a hivemind.

However if your argument is for all intent and purposes an pure bullcrap, then you can expect AT THE VERY LEAST some, lets just say colourful words.

UnboundHades1 votes

boards arent a hivemind you say, when you are acting like every other person on the boards who complain about yas that rice was talking about

Thefrostyviking1 votes

If the boards were a hivemind negativity wouldnt be a nearly as big of a thing, everyone would agree on everything and upvote whatever they felt represented the biggest current issue´s.

But fact is, every dedicated "class" mains tend to hate at least 2 other classes, individual champ mains tend to hate a heap of others and disagreements on everything are way more common than anything else.

Except the fact that there are a few champs that no one aside from the champs own players like, like Yasou.

Exin04 votes

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I get that that the Windwall must have a mechanic that Yasuo can use with his E where he can dodge incoming abilities for outplay purposes, but what's with it behaving like a 360° spellfree zone?

NOTE: This is a genuine question, and not a complaint post. Also just a quick heads-up, i'm not fully sure if it's the way this works or if it's a bug that I witnessed several times...

reason is special treatment for yasuo riot is obssesed with him for whatever reason a despite ridiculous ban rate they never change anything, he is only get hited indirectly with items and runes changes

BLIGHTBRINGER3 votes
Stars Shaper3 votes

Surely the animation needs more clarity. Yasuo "casting" the ability is visible but the wall comes out after it's already active.

If Riot wants to keep the mechanic of WW "coming out" of Yasuo this needs to be visible.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Wolfeur3 votes

I think it would be fair for windwall to block projectiles only from a certain angle.

Stars Shaper2 votes

I don't think it's such a problematic thing considering that if Yasuo wants to use that he basically can't move an inch (if not perfectly in line with the wall).

  • If you are ranged then you can both disengage or wait for him to move/wall to fade (and if you have a non projectile skill then he is taking free damage).

  • If you are melee you can just walk over him.

WAZZZUP5001 votes

Nah, have you seen how big the wall gets when he puts any levels in it? I know that's not until late game, but late game is when you want to be blocking ults and other crucial teamfight winning projectiles.

Stars Shaper1 votes

It gets longer, not wider and still it's not enough to consdier it a threat nor invalidates what I wrote first.

If you shoot multiple decisive projectiles at a Yasuo who still hasn't used his wall you are just acting dumb. It would be like chasing Singed in circles.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

I mean he might just try to run you down and kill you in 3 hits if you dont at least try to stop him gapclosing at some point.

Of course this doesnt really work because he´ll just use windwall when he either sees you try to stop his approach or when he is close enough to remove any chance of stopping him but thats that.

Stars Shaper1 votes

If you run right inside your incoming minionwave you are the reason of your doom. Keep ignoring how the enemy kit works and you'll get stomped by it. There isn't a champion that can't either kill or escape from a Yasuo, you just need to use your friggin' brain.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Run inside it? Dude i can stand well behind a wave but if he dashes straight over my melee over my casters then he either lands next to me or close enough that he can either instantly dash ontop me or just walk up then dash because he has more movespeed as a melee vs ranged.

Cant kill or escape from Yasou?

Yasou has the kit to beat literally any mage there is aside from possibly aurelion whose ulti just hardcounters yas, And his ability to dash around directly makes it impossible to farm for many which automatically gives him constant lane priority which is very damn strong.

No projectile mage can kill him when he is good, no shorter range can escape from him aside from Ahri.

The only perk is that a number of mages have skillshots that bypass the windwall to a degree like Syndra´s Q which gives minimal functionality in teamfights.

But there is no wonder really, this champ was made to shit on ranged picks.

The only problem Yas has is the fact that jungle exists, that is the only thing, otherwise he´d almost certainly have a much higher winrate but because he is so dominant in most ranged matchups his players cant help but constantly play aggro on him which makes baiting him in for the jungle a piece of cake.

But really that doesnt make the fact that you need 2 people to beat 1 guy like 3-4 times in a row any better when he can make a comeback at almost any time,,,,,,,,seriously if he wasnt so easy to snowball off for most junglers this champ would be insane.

Stars Shaper1 votes

So you are saying that your team is letting Yasuo dash through to your backline while doing nothing to stop him...

It's a skill issue more and more. I play almost only mages and I've never had such issues against a Yasuo if not visibly outskilled.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

When the heck did i mention a word about teamfights?

My problem is that his lanephase is ridiculously dominant, he literally cannot logically lose without making a heap of mistakes or getting baited into a trap which on its own could be considered a mistake, which in turns gives him a ridiculous advantage when it comes to lane priority.

But i am regardless quite pleased that you bought the teamfight case up.

Yasou can, even if he has been literally passive up until that point, with just a bit of help from his team instantly kill any squishy there is, one ranged displacement CC or a dash into a melee one and he can ult from 2 screens away and murder any squishy that had the misfortune of being hit by the mentioned CC.

True damage, DPS, armor pen and burst, he does it all so you certainly dont survive his "followup" on that CC.

Oh your backline is strong? Would be a terrible shame if your frontline was separated from your backline by a windwall forcing them to sit back 4 seconds while the frontline dies.

Yasou is good in lane vs ranged, he is good in skirmishes and great in teamfights and he is good at dueling and splitpushing.

Then for the final word since you went there......visibly outskilled?From what i could tell over the course of your last won 5-ish games the opponents you beat are unranked, iron bronze and silver!

King Braum1 votes

The reason is that during development they couldn't figure out how to make the windwall work so instead it behaves like a priority minion with everything hitting the wall, hitting an invisible minion instead. It's something like that.

Either way because of this goofy fix apparently there are dumb interaction with the wall.

Marshbouy1 votes

the windwall probably has a hitbox larger than yasuo's model

Yboat1 votes

My guess is they either didn't want too or could not figure out how too code it

Alzon1 votes

It’s basically Zhonyas if he uses it that way. Make him step outside it if he wants to do damage.

Schenix1 votes

You could just read the ability. The wall spawns from him first, then travels outward.

If he casts it at the exact time an ability would land on him, he can negate it entirely because it spans his whole model at that specific point in time. Likewise, if he stands in it at the right angle, it still encompasses most of his model.

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