[new item] Hallam Mace (the B.F. for ADC Casters)

CoolKnightST··1 votes·988 views

It's been for a while now that some AD casters really struggle with the variation in their item builds. Most of the available items are aimeds towards raw stats & their are little to no item that grant you a powerspike earlyer in the game. I think the main champion that has this issue is Ezreal. He has no item available to let him snowball the early game. Whe have seen plenty of builds on him like the blue build, the tri-force build, the lifesteal build or just a mix of it. Every time it prevents him to get that early pressure while still scaling equaly into the lategame.

It's time to release an item that truely benefit these style of champions:

Hallam Mace

  • Cost: 875[475] = 1350 gold
  • Stats: 40 AD, UNIQUE PASSIVE: 5% CDR
  • Build out: item 1037

Hallam Mace will be implemented into 2 items so far namely item 3508 & item 3022:

Essence Reaver

  • Cost: 2150[800] = 2950 gold
  • Stats: 70 AD, 10% life steal, 15% CDR, the passive
  • Build out: Hallam Mace + item 1053

Frozen Mallet

  • Cost: 2350[750] = 3100 gold
  • Stats: 500 HP, 50 AD, 10% CDR, the passive
  • Build out: Hallam Mace + item 1011

Both items will grant access to something they didn't had before besides item 3134 item 3071 item 3142 namely cooldown reduction. Something they can access early & can match the powerspike that other adc's get from item 1038.


Changes

5/12/2014 - 14:38

  • Hallam Mace cost reduced from "875[600] = 1475" to "875[475] = 1350"
  • Hallam Mace cdr stat reduced from "10% CDR" to "UNIQUE PASSIVE: 5% CDR"
  • Essence Reaver cost reduced from "2275[975] = 3250" to "2150[800] = 2950"
  • Essence Reaver stats reduced from "75 AD, 15% life steal, 10% CDR, passive" to "70 AD, 10% life steal, 15% CDR, passive"
  • Frozen Mallet cost reduced from "2475[825] = 3300" to "2350[750] = 3100"
  • Frozen Mallet hp stat reduced from "550 hp" to "500 hp"

14 Comments

Poptart Evelynn3 votes

Frozen mallet is getting removed soon.

So...

eyes wide shut1 votes

no. don't you dare. lies and blasphemy.

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

no. don't you dare. lies and blasphemy.

Lol they already said they would...

eyes wide shut2 votes

LIES AND BLASPHEMY. BURN THE HERETIC!

CoolKnightST1 votes

item 3022 removal is still under discussion. The current state it is in now is:

Removed or repurposed

Their wasn't been a official annoucement what they are planning todo with Frozen Mallet & the discussion still goes back & foward. I see now reason why not to include this item to the list so long it exists in the game.

Talamare1 votes

The stats are just so insanely similar to a Brutalizer tho

If I was riot I would just make Essence Reaver build out of a Brutalizer and give it a bit of ArP

CoolKnightST1 votes

How's +25 Attack Damage, UNIQUE Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction, UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration similar to +40 Attack Damage, +10% Cooldown Reduction. Also building it out off item 3134 wouldn't benefit those adc casters for the lategame and when building this into item 3508 wouldn't provide enouge raw AD to make the item worth buying. It looks nice on paper but without that raw AD whe will just have another situational item. The only champions that will benefit a lot from that buildline is AD casters like Jayce LeeSin.

Kuroi861 votes

Could work, and would make Frozen Mallet at least viable again.

CoolKnightST1 votes

I think the stats are perfect. It will also keep his original function while still grant benefits to bruisers like Shyvana Fiora.

It would also grant the options for champions like Jayce to build more for the lategame by shifting some of his midgame power.

Ale non è male1 votes

ER would still have too high of a price tag in the end. It would still be not used because of it, since ER should be rushed early but its price tag would be too high. And it still wouldn't solve the problems of mana regen for these champs while finishing ER You would need to drop some stat from the final item to lower its price tag, and probably lower a bit Hallam Mace price and stats to make it more appealing and faster to rush

Hallam Mace

Recipe Pickaxe + 425 gold = 1350 gold

Stats 40 AD, 5% CDR

Essence Reaver

Hallam Mace(1350) + Vampiric scepter(800) + Forbidden idol (600) + 200 = 2950 gold

Stats 70 AD, 10% life steal, 15% CDR + the passive

For Frozen mallet, you would just need to adjust recipe price to reach your target price

CoolKnightST1 votes

I can agrea with the price & stats reduction from Hallam Mace. Lowering it to 1350 gold would indeed turn up the powerspike of the item. The only thing I'm worried about is that the powerspike might be to big that early. This change would powerup certain adc's.

I'm really wondering what's the deal with item 3114 in all of these suggestions. You basicly replace sustain utility to onhit utility. I don't think whe will see a change like that ever unless you actualy implement mana regeneration on item 3508 but that would just overload the item again.

I think it would be better to keep it with:

  • Recipe: Hallam Mace(1350) + Vampiric scepter(800) + 800 = 2950 gold
  • Stats: 70 AD, 10% life steal, 15% CDR + the passive

Actualy it's really dificult to reduce the price of item 3022. When I calculated the original price it actualy was 3500 gold but I reduced it to 3200 gold. It might be possible to lower it with 100 gold if whe reduce the HP to 500 but that is far as it can go. Riot seems to count a lot of gold for the passive. It's really difficult to actualy lower it in it's current state without making it OP or hurt it's stats.

Ale non è male1 votes

I am not a big fan of Forbidden Idol overall, neither I'm a big fan of it in the recipe of ER, but I can see the point of people which are complaining about the lack of mana regen/recover through out ER build The problem is that this is not easy to solve as forbidden idol gives literaly no combat stat that an ADC can use aside from CDR, and wait till the completion of the item to get mana recover on hit could make it a bit useless as by the time you finish it most of the mana problems are naturally solved by levelling up...that's why I have alwasy put emphasis on price reduction on the final ER even at the cost of some stats

The same Hallam Mace suggestion was to just a try to make it coexist with Forbidden idol on the final ER recipe while keeping the price low and the item not too goold as gold efficiency, because 70 AD, 10% LS, and 20 CDR% was too gold efficient for less than 3000 gold, even thouhg 20% CDR make more sene than 15% CDR which is a bit odd when not paired with Sorcery mastery

Another option is that Hallam Mace price would rop even more in 1250-1300 range price, giving less AD( For example Hallam mace could give 35 AD and 10% CDR at 1250 gold) to give a different powerspike from BF Sword. ER, Frozen mallet, would be less powerful than major item, so they need to have a different powerspike to survive and get their space, only 75 gold of difference from BF not make it attractive because the difference in AD is relevant and people at this point would rather go for the more powerful item in raw damage stat. And ER could be like

Hallam Mace(1250) + Vamp Scepter + Long Sword + 540 = 2950 gold

Stats 75 AD, 10 LS, 10% CDR + the passive

Frozne Mallet problem is that it should be more of an health item, but find the right balance price wise between health, AD, and eventually other stats like CDR while not making it waay too expensive and not make useless the final combo is hard. Just like ER, it should be put a price target for the final item and for its AD component(in this situation whichever version of Hallam Mace you would prefer between 40 AD, 5% CDR and 35 AD, 10% CDR), and then tweak the number to make it for the best balance of stat and gold efficiency(not too good, not too bad) at that target price chosen

HadesHellfire1 votes

he has a sheen -_- he can definently snowball. and any adc can snowball if they get a. early B.F. sword

IwfiKe3qjM1 votes

I like the Idea of item 3508 recipe but maybe some changes on the price and stats...

Hallam Mice price reduced again to 1300 item 3508 total price reduced between 2800-2900 and CDR reduced to 10%

for item 3022 is difficult... I like the old slow passive better so if I agree with you with the stats I better give:

item 3067 + item 1028 + item 1037 + 975 = 3100 +500 HP, +40 AD, +10% CDR

Other alternative if I didn't agree with CDR stat so: old recipe + 725 = 3000 +600 HP, +40 AD

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