Skarner's Fine Where He Is!

PalPlays··11 votes·822 views
 The nerfs to Skarner's shrine buffs are a revert to the exact goals that you wanted for him. He's supposed to be very strong inside the shrines to reward both ally and enemy interactions with them. With the severe nerf to the attack speed gained from them, opponents hardly have a reason to fear him inside shrines anymore. This is especially true because Skarner is easily kited as is, so why nerf his strengths when his weaknesses are so prevalent?

 As a Skarner player (since S4) with 79 thousand mastery points on him, I see the nerf to his attack speed gain as the push that will put him BELOW any iteration of the Crystal Vangard ever seen. While his peel will still be solid, there are other Junglers that do it better. Riot please, if you want to nerf his damage then just stick with the justifiable nerf to Impale's 200% AD ratio (or nerf the attack speed CDR on Q to just be doubled against champs)! Riot, I am BEGGING you, he's my favorite champion in the game and 'm telling you that he's perfectly balanced where he is right now.

 For those of you who STILL think that Skarner is broken, just pick Karma, Janna, Lulu, Anivia, Veigar, Azir, Ryze, Mundo, or Elise into him and expoit his weaknesses. Riot, please don't try and fix what isn't broken.

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WoonStruck4 votes

Riot's always been braindead retarded when it comes to Skarner. I gave up on him ever being in a decent spot and left alone for a long, long time.

PalPlays1 votes

They promised that Juggernauts were here to stay, but the nerf to Skarner will (100% guaranteed) will make him completely underpowered. Please spread this thread around; Riot needs to know that you fix what isn't broken.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Riot's always been braindead retarded when it comes to Skarner. I gave up on him ever being in a decent spot and left alone for a long, long time.

"we don't want skarner to be a lockdown tank"- riotsaidnoneever

Anags4 votes

He is 44 of 45 in average damage per game according to champion.gg. so I don't understand the damage nerfs. He is already just a stun/ult bot that soaks damage and can peel. He is more tank than juggernaut by a lot.

I only play him now and then because I was gifted the battlecast skin and I think the skin is sweet. My guess is riot doesn't want him to be a competitive pick at all. It's really the only reason I can think of.

But with all the crazy changes going on I'm not surprised by anything. Doesn't matter much to me anyway. Almost all of my friends have stopped playing and I probably won't play much anymore either.

Blyted3 votes

Out of all the juggernauts why is Skarner being targeted for nerfs? I find this balance decision very troubling.

WoonStruck2 votes

Riot won't pay attention. Hell, just look at how they're nerfing Skarner and not Jax due to Guinsoo's and Fervor.

Wind Whistler2 votes

Why is Skarner not allowed to have a 2.0 AD Ratio on his suppression ultimate but Warwick is?

WoonStruck2 votes

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http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/MOasm5QZ-trying-to-understand-nerf-choices?comment=0000

Look at the numbers and tell me Skarner isn't broken.

Skarner isn't broken. He can only be successful in very specific games, and the dedicated players know when he's able to shine. That's called a niche, not being overpowered.

Yeah, he runs away with games where he gets fed, but even Volibear (one of the worst winrates) does that. Games like those he can usually afford a bit more damage and is more likely to close out a game early before he falls off. However, if the game is dragged out, that damage ends up being more of a detriment to him unless top lane is a super hard engage like Malphite.

Skarner has always been balanced around how difficult it is to successfully do his job. There are so many enablers now since Riot's getting so CC happy, especially after Merc Tread nerfs, that Skarner is benefiting.

Anags1 votes

So you are saying that Trundle is broken. He has a 62% winrate with 125+ games played. Maokai is at 72% with similar games played. Sion and a couple other champs are around 60% as well. This is based on jungle winrates.

It really doesn't matter but there have been so many changes to different variables in this preseason I'm not sure how you can say one certain champion is OP right now. Some masteries are very strong. Items have changed. Builds and power spikes have changed. I really think skarner is strong but mainly because he locks tagets down. And if you get cc'd with the high damage champs running around right now....you don't survive at all. Skarner helps high damage champs get a lead and the snowball is so great now that you push the advantage and win.

It has nothing to do with his damage or 1v1 potential imo. But whatever. I'm sure we will see a steady stream of nerfs over several patches. And elise/rek'Sai will remain the top junglers.

Anags1 votes

Skarner is at 63% with 125+ games played. Trundle is at 62%. Maokai is at 72%. Sion is at around 60% along with a few others. Are they btoken? Taric is at 53% average winrate this patch.

Why? Well tank masteries are strong. They are also getting nerfed. On top of that a champ that can cc/lock down a tagets is really strong right now. Why? Because there is a ton of damage coming from all over the place. If you can lock down a target your carry will destroy them. They get fed and the game snowballs and you win. That is the state of the game right now for the majority of games. His damage has nothing to do with it.

But when the masteries get toned down and champs get nerfed over several patches then all of a sudden skarner is a weak cc bot.

That is where i see this going.I personally don't care much. I rarely play the champ. But the nerf seems unnecessary to me until masteries and other problematic champs are adjusted. That's my opinion. Riot should make changes one step at a time. Change items then see what happens. Change masteries and see what happens. Then change chmps and see what haopens. Not....let's adjust all this stuff at once. It just doesn't make sense.

It's sad....a lot of these changes have driven away people I played with and the game isn't as fun solo.

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