What can we do to get Liss our of top and back into mid?

Packun Flower·Apr 3, 2015·3 votes·529 views

This champ is absolutely ridiculous top. People complain about Kallista being immune to melee but honestly Lissandra isn't all that different. She has little to no counter play at top lane especially against melee's and we need to get her back into mid where she can be poked fairly.

16 Comments

XonraApr 3, 20153 votes

She is already played more in mid than top currently, and has been played maybe like 75-25 mid-top in the past 2 weeks if not the last month.

Koreans are playing her mostly in mid NA is playing her mostly in MID EU is about 50/50 as they are stubborn

Overall I would say for going on a month now she has seen more play (in pro games and solo queue games) in mid than in top.

S H A Y C 0Apr 3, 20152 votes

solution: dont pick a melee top and pick something that can poke back...120 champions, it should be easy to find something to solve the matchup issue.

TsugagaApr 3, 20153 votes

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solution: dont pick a melee top and pick something that can poke back...120 champions, it should be easy to find something to solve the matchup issue.

Because you always get to counter pick the enemy?

SpongebobIsLifeApr 3, 20152 votes

well then if you pick first shouldn't you expect to be counter picked?

RaptameiApr 3, 20154 votes

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Because you always get to counter pick the enemy?

You don't deserve a favourable matchup every time.

TsugagaApr 3, 20152 votes

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You don't deserve a favourable matchup every time.

I never said you do. The person I replied to said to pick something that can poke back against Liss, but that doesn't help if you have to pick first and then Liss gets picked. I was only replying about his "solution".

DrNovaApr 3, 20151 votes

Then you do what you do any other time your countered. Play safe, get what farm you can, dont feed, and hope you have a jung who ganks.

TsugagaApr 3, 20151 votes

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Then you do what you do any other time your countered. Play safe, get what farm you can, dont feed, and hope you have a jung who ganks.

Obviously, I was simply replying to say that his "solution" isn't always possible. Relax.

DrMarshSwampApr 3, 20151 votes

What about decreasing the size of Ring of Frost and have it grow as you level it?

AbyssphereApr 3, 20151 votes

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What about decreasing the size of Ring of Frost and have it grow as you level it?

How the hell does that help her mid?

DrMarshSwampApr 3, 20151 votes

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How the hell does that help her mid?

I was looking at more of nerfing her top.

AbyssphereApr 3, 20151 votes

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I was looking at more of nerfing her top.

...and nerfing her mid.

The thread is about shoving Liss into a lane that isn't top, not making her terrible everywhere.

exiledFromBadmenApr 3, 20152 votes

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What about decreasing the size of Ring of Frost and have it grow as you level it?

Its range is already low enough.

Skia AsteriApr 3, 20151 votes

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3300952

She was always intended to be played both top and mid. The question should be 'is she too strong in one of those lanes' and if yes then 'how to make her balanced there'.

DrNovaApr 3, 20151 votes

Not really. Or at least it shouldnt be. Nerfing champs just because they are strong somewhere (and not in lcs) is why so many champs get mothballed by Riot so often. They seem to dislike diversity.

But she's not too strong, she just has some range which makes any melee champ have a tough time. Pick a ranged champ, switch lanes with someone, or ask jung to help. The usual.