Almost all of these Event missions involve playing in a 5 man premade. That's not really fair to us solo players. And though I dont mind Riot encouraging group play i as a solo player would not like to be alienated from future events.
Douglas Funnie32 votesWhat a garbage "Missions" system. Players are forced to win 3 onslaught games with 3 different champs to get 1 token. And on top of that, after they finish winning 3 games, players have to win ANOTHER game with an A rating. (The ratings earned during the previous 3 games don't count)... What a mess!
Packun Flower25 votesyeah, the event is turning out to be a huge flop.
Fairyfleur4 votesIt's only the first day, I'm sure they can make changes within the rotation.
nGio5 votesHow fucking awesome would it be if tomorrow they just straight up got rid of this shit, and rolled out URF or One For All? I would feed an IV from my bank account to my League account, because my money respects good decisions.
Fairyfleur23 votesThis mode is amazing, the missions might've not been structured well, but the mode itself is just as good.
Stratavotis13 votesI agree. this is nice as a rotating game mode... but hard mode is brutal.
Jeddy0174 votesAlso, all you can get from the tokens is a Ward skin & a mystery champ permanent shard (probably give me a champ I already own), so it's not like the rewards are worth the effort in to 1st place.
Fairyfleur3 votesThen you don't need to complete them, Invasion is a perfectly fine mode without missions.
Miati2 votesWhat if i want the ward but don't have hours on hours to grind away?
Fairyfleur1 votesTry find a team that you can work with whether it be friends or a good random team, I've gotten pretty good random teams myself in a short amount of time. There's also plenty of people on the boards in player recruitment asking for players.
You can do it in a few hours, but it'll be pretty hard. If you'd like, I can offer some things I've learned so far.
DracosKasu2 votesIt is a reward for thise who want to do an effort. On 13 run we success 4 times but most of the lost come from the 7 Vel spamming at range with Skarner grab.
Cowseed17 votesBecause they thought we all had friends.
Stupid assumtion, I know.
skyskee0083 votesI mean 5 man premade is still a lot. Like I have 2-3 friends I generally play with.
Cowseed2 votesDon't take it too seriously. Just saw the opportunity for a joke and jumped on it
[poppy-wink]
WinTheWarOnPants8 votesIt's always been like this. Bonus IP weekends, IP bonuses at end of game, mastery points and honor point(probably something else im forgetting) are all bonuses that you don't have access to as a solo player.
Hello I am Bird3 votesAt least all of these applied if you have a duo partner instead of a full 5 man queue.
ModCaptainMårvelous7 votesBecause Sailor Moon is a team. Wait for the Tuxedo Mask event.
No but really, that shit is so fucking hard it's crazy. IMO riot overtuned the shit out of onslaught.
Skorch6 votesOh you mean the event about teamwork, has missions for teamwork.
Dont get me wrong, i understand solo suffering, getting a 5 man is really hard.
But in an online game about teamwork, it doesnt surprise me some events are for premades only.
Indestructible185 votesthis sucks.... i only have like 1 or 2 (3 if im lucky) friends on and they're all doing their own thing..... i wanted that ward skin so bad....
Packun Flower8 votesYeah its really not right what they did. There has been a response to it but so far the event is turning out poorly.
Cavesloth1 votesShow them how much you hate it with your wallet. That's where it'll hurt them. Don't buy their SG skins, or hell anything till they fix this shit.
Weasel Kensei4 votesRiot is in firm belief based on market analysis that people who have friends that play the game will keep playing it longer, and therefore have a higher likelihood of buying stuff since they play it a lot, because their friends play it, and their friends buy stuff cause they play it alot, cause their friends play it.
So theyre trying to force you to find 4 other people to be "friends" with so you play together, cause you want stuff.
Theyre worried about player retention like lots of game companies are, and they trying to CRAM HAVING FRIENDS THAT PLAY THE GAME IN YOUR FACE based on your desire to get stuff.... you know... by alienating solo players. Let me put it this way. If there was a club called "League of Legends" and in that club were 8 people who didnt know eachother, and 5 friends were waiting outside... Riot would push those 8 people out and let the 5 friends in. Riot feels that the 5 friends will stay longer and buy more drinks, so fuck those 8 strangers.
Solo players have been second class citizens of League for a while now, and this is just one more bullet point by Rito letting us know that we dont count because we dont fit their "long term player retention scheme" and we can just fuck ourselves out of missions and other stuff because were playing solo.
Sounds like Im being mean to poor ol Rito? Im not, you people are numbers to the corporate lords and masters, and if this game isnt making money then someone will be fired. Its how a business works. They do not care if you think something isnt fair if they think they can get money by doing something a minority of payers dont like, they will do the thing that makes money.
So to the OPs point again: Why? $$$$$$$$ they see represented by the extension in play time over years that a group of friends playing a game, thats why.
Riachy1 votesnice theory. wanna hear mine?
I joined random games and asked if they want to join me as a 5 man premade for the missions. took about 1 minute.
and we played together and got all the missions except the S one, and i dont have to choose to be their friends
but i guess if you think inviting the same people, who you got matched with randomly, to a premade lobby makes you any less of a solo player then you might have a point here
The Whamboozler3 votesnice theory. wanna hear mine?
I joined random games and asked if they want to join me as a 5 man premade for the missions. took about 1 minute.
and we played together and got all the missions except the S one, and i dont have to choose to be their friends
but i guess if you think inviting the same people, who you got matched with randomly, to a premade lobby makes you any less of a solo player then you might have a point here
Why force people to jump through that hoop at all though? Is there any reason at all that solo players couldn't be permitted in this mode? If you're just inviting randos then it's not like a masterful amount of team synergy is required for this mode. So what you're saying is "It's ok that I have to play another match first and hope that enough of the randoms in it wanna queue up for this new mode with me" because... presumably you have a ton of time and spend a lot of it on league anyway.
Well grats then, I guess... you're the ideal whale to Riot's marketing department. Eat that corporate cheese and drink that corporate wine now, before you end up with some kind of life and/or obligations that prevent you from grinding like five or six games a night and see how much Riot cares about you then.
Riachy1 votesyou dont have to play the match at all, i told you it took me 1 minute to find 4 people. and im not exaggerating
also no one is forcing the solo player to get a useless reward... so when you say "Is there any reason at all that solo players couldn't be permitted in this mode?" I laugh
and it was explained by a rioter why they did it this way here's the quote: "The 3 missions we chose required premades because for the team compositions, we wanted to avoid as much champ select tension as reasonably possible ("Hey guys don't pick ADC. Oh, you did? I'm dodging"). The S was because we didn't realistically think you could do it without being coordinated, and didn't want to set the expectation you should."
The Whamboozler1 votesHmmm.... quiet dismissal of the idea of an unbalance? Condescending tone in the reply? Repeating the same excuses Riot gave you without actually mulling over the issue at all?
Yeah... they sure have your number man. You're the kind of person that likely dismisses ANY problem that you yourself don't have to deal with and will continue to do so until you end up being the one something unbalanced or shitty is affecting, and then I'm sure you'll be up at arms on the forums whining about "so-and-so champ is BROKEN!" or "OMG, trolls ruined my promos!" like all the rest.
Don't worry though... when you do, I'm sure someone will come in, quote a Rioter's statement about something and then promptly act like that's made a point before they zip off to ignore you again. And it's okay if the game heaps a dozen little acts of favoritism towards the kind of people that they feel they make the most money off of, right? Oh, I mean... it WILL be great... until you're not in that group any more. Then you'll be pissed too and everyone will dismiss YOU.
Riachy1 votesDismissal of the idea of an unbalance? Ironically you're trying to change the subject.
I can assure you that I will not complain about something that's 100% free. If I don't like it I won't play it. Why would I complain about something like this?
If anything you're dismissing the topic of discussion with your reply of gibberish with no logical points on the subject at hand here but instead you're trying to break down my post redarding the structure and tone and branch off into a prediction of my future. LOL!
Let me know if you want to talk about the original topic.
The Whamboozler1 votesThe subject of the post is "why must people be in 5 man premades to earn mission rewards"? It seems to me like you are the one deviating from the subject matter, sir. All you've said is basically "Pfft, it's not hard to get a premade. Just get a premade". This isn't answering the question of the OP at all. And then when I called you on it by again asking why solo players can't participate you just kinda pulled the old mudslinger trick of attacking me directly instead of addressing my point. Look.... I'll do it again so you can see it twice.
Why does the event need to exclude solo players? Go on, answer it. Give me a good reason.
I will assume you're either going to ignore the question and just insult me personally AGAIN... proving you have no answer and no ground to stand on here... or that you're going to just regurgitate the Riot statement again about how premades are required for team comp of these modes. That second excuse however is rendered laughably wrong by your OWN suggestion that you just grab four randos from a normal game to play with you. If the mode is one five random chuckleheads can manage with ease, it's certainly one a solo player and four randos can manage as well and excluding them from participating is STILL pretty stupid.
And even if you somehow come up with some amazing reason why the event absolutely HAS to be premades only... that still doesn't make it a good or fair idea to put in your game! Imagine if say, every player who's summoner name begins with F got a few free Chromas, or if they introduced a new game mode that you could only play if you had bought a skin this month. Oh sure, no one NEEDS those things, but it's still excluding a large selection from their playerbase from something and giving it to the rest of them... and it's REALLY arbitrary too. Shit like that is unintentionally unfair at best, and really sleazy and manipulative at worst, with Riot attempting to condition people into playing the game in certain ways or pampering their marketing department approved "whales" with free stuff while flipping the big middle finger to loyal players who have just chosen to play the game without a team of bros behind them.
underscores2224 votesAllow me to debunk this myth. There are three missions requiring a 5 man team (total rewards = 4 tokens) and three missions that you can do solo (total reward = 4 tokens). Thus any player, solo or not, can get enough tokens to get the reward. People who are able to do both get a champion as well.
And seriously, the reward is a ward skin. It's not even that great. Are people really that upset over a ward skin?
Fake Masks3 votes[{quoted}](name=Annie Lolicon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Lu6Ut42l,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-07T23:52:50.661+0000)
Almost all of these Event missions involve playing in a 5 man premade. That's not really fair to us solo players. And though I dont mind Riot encouraging group play i as a solo player would not like to be alienated from future events.
Well I'm not really interested in getting the rewards they offer so I don't mind it, I'm still gonna play the game mode tho it's fun.
WorstLoLplayerEU3 votesDunno why but i feel my character moving too slow on this mode, like having a movement nerf. I like the idea of this mode but missions are awful. I strongly dislike the star guardians theme and skins ( i like manga but never standed Sailor Moon), maybe Riot pointed more at the Asian servers and hentai fanatics. The only Star Guardian skin i would ever buy would be Star Guardian Mundo. I foresee Taric in the next unavoidable SG team ....[zombie-nunu-bummed]
Blåbæret3 votesIt has become more and more obvious that Riot has lost their way. Giving it until S8 before I quit this game if Riot doesn't get their act together.
SweedishGunner2 votesApart from the ward or a mystery champion what else can we actually do with the SG shards? Anything?
Fairyfleur1 votesNo, those are the only rewards being held out for the tokens unfortunately. I wish that it was made like the VS. event and with multiple rewards, and many more missions.
Ez dePaz1 votesI guess you also earn icons in two of the quests, but thats all there is.
Copy Mirror2 votesI have only 2 friends who play this game with me... that's not enough to appease riot
Kamikaze Egg2 voteshave no friends online or real life. no 1 is talking in game. how can i get a premade T_T
The Whamboozler1 votesUm... Riot doesn't give two shits about solo players. Remember dynamic queue? Y'know... that mode Riot pushed on people and were extremely hesitant to abandon? You know... the mode that made boosting not only permitted but kinda encouraged? Riot wants you to make your friends play the game because their player numbers are dropping, so they have been pushing the idea of premades being the preferred way to play and giving them little perks and advantages for a while now.
Mig891 votesoh waah... Dynamic queue is dead. get over it
The Whamboozler1 votesAnd yet the attitude that led to it lives on.
Dengeden1 votesBecause you can queue up with people who you played with, it's not that hard or a big demand.
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votesits meant to feel like a dungeon or raid, so they want to encourage coop and make something actually challenging.
KMyL1 votesJesus...
Rito tried... No, they forced somehow players to at least TRY what feels premade game like... But... Well - for some people it's too hard.
So hard to play solo & after game(s), when you will see good/nice player try ask him to add on friend list & play together or find other players & win games & earn rewards...
Some people will be disguised... Some pissed off... Some will "make friends" only for that event & delete those fresh fiends right after reaching rewards... But there will also be some weirdos. And that weirdos will find new friends, or will see that playing with "not random" players is better, cus at least he know, that they're not from Ecologic Plastic V...
But yeah...
Alienated...
I'm just waiting for some guy, who will write in future stuff like - man! I don't have that much time to play so many games. I've got a life. but also I wanna rewards. Why people without much free time like me are alienated. Just add "receive rewards button" or at least make them possible to buy with RP...
& probably you didn't saw that "star guardian TEAM theme" so TEAM=premade... Of course...
Wow...
Cavesloth1 votesThey tried? They are a BILLION DOLLAR company, not some whiny millenial raised on timeouts, participation trophies, and safe spaces. They already admitted in earlier Ask RIot posts that stuff like this was very bad idea. But instead of fixing it before they rolled it out, they just shat out this turd and decided to roll with it.
Titanium701 votesFirst of all.. it doesnt - there are missions for Solos as well and those are enough to get the Ward-Skin. Second.. this mode is hard... which is why going for 5-man premade is the logical choice ANYWAY. And it's alot more fun grinding the missions with Discord active - take one look into the board section.. there are planty of people looking for groups.
J Epstein1 votesA couple reasons I can think of:
It encourages you to invite new players to league.
The game mode was already free. Comparatively to the price of average skins, a new mode on a new map is expensive, yet we got it for free.
Just search for group in the "Player Recruitment" looking for people who want to grind Invasion, then never play with them again.
Mr New Booty1 votesAll i know is the announcer is annoying whats the rest of it?
PiVoRx1 votesI got an advice for you, stop giving a fuck about those troll events, i never cared and im happy ^^.
Hěx1 votesThey have left the possibility to get 4 tokens without needed to play in a premade. The players who want harder challanges play in groups and can go for all of the quests, but if the ward or mystery champion is what you are going for you can get it. I got it in 10 games and only because I suck at marksman the other one took 1-2 tries. The get an A quest is also not that difficult. I got it in my first try. Now I will try to meet up with my squad and we will try to get an S (thats the one mission that I think is insanely hard but 2 weeks :D)