Meddler said (two cycles ago) that she would be getting looked at in 8.6ish and we are currently 8 updates into the 8.6 pbe cycle without a single mention of lissandra. If her buffs arent ready yet then fine, at the very least give us a revised eta as well as info on current progress and changes. Just a reminder:
She hasnt had meaningful buffs in 940 days
ZephyrDrake2 votesBeing "looked and" doesn't mean that they will buff her
JarodDempsey2 votesshes been UP for years, there will be changes and they will amount to buffs
Sukishoo2 votesHe said "(8.6 ish?)"
There is an ISH there for a reason as that doesn't mean they were set to be released by then. All these things get moved around.
JarodDempsey2 votesyeah but mentioning buffs to a champ who has been in a bad state for 3 years warrants at least a 2nd note when the initial date of changes is pushed back. There wasnt even a single mention of her after meddler said she'd be looked at.
paisy1 votesThey delayed them
JarodDempsey2 votesfinally someone with answers, where did you see that posted?
paisy1 votesfinally someone with answers, where did you see that posted?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/NEyEiK8M-quick-gameplay-thoughts-march-7
Can't find the specific quote but there's this
Marshbouy1 votesI just want to point out that Lissandra has received a myriad of small buffs over the course of season 6 and 7, so she hasn't gone completely unchanged. They aren't crazy, but they aren't nonexistent either.
For example
Base health increased to 518 from 506.12. Health growth increased to 87 from 75.
That seems tiny, until you realize that she got multiple changes like this over the course of a long time. They add up.
######Not saying Lissandra is in a fine state, just that she has been given NUMEROUS small buffs.
JarodDempsey2 votesthats 216 health at lvl 18...negligible
Marshbouy1 votesOkay, so would you be perfectly fine with giving just anyone with an extra 216 HP because it's "negligible"?
I'm guessing no.
She's also gotten small AP scaling buffs, MR growth/level, and mana scaling buffs.
It all adds up to a moderately stronger champion in all, but just because they're spread out doesn't mean it's "not meaningful"
Catastrop1 votesSome of those were baselines for the loss of scaling hp runes and mr, every midlaner ever got that. Not only that, but one of those was a revert to her base hp scaling being nerfed in prep for proplay, so basically.....nothing really was done aside from a scaling cd mechanic on her passsive and a 5% ap scaling. And that all(I say it like it's even a lot) took place in a span of almost two years.
I'm so sorry if I'm sounding rude or anything here, it's just we've been getting told that they'd look into a passive for her, for nearly 3 years straight. When they finally find something, they show it us and then delay it more because it didn't "fit her". The Liss community has posted a plethora of passive ideas or general just stuff that could be done outside of base stat buffs that could actually make her viable, for again, nearly 3 years. It gets really frustrating.
Now I'm not saying we should fucking I don't know, riot(heh) with pitchforks and torches, but I would not be surprised if Meddler said the current tentative passive change is going to be shelved when 8.8 gets here.
Zane Zephyr1 votesThey did have a passive change that got pulled for more testing.
Frozen Diva1 votesWhy don't you visit the Dev Corner? Literally every post has a few Lissandra questions in it and Meddler responds everytime. He listed the changes and said there is nothing new to report because they are still testing. He also wrote the changes will probably ship in 8.8 and not 8.7.
It takes time and we can be happy they are even looking at Lissandra.
Catastrop1 votesIt's being delayed until 8.7 or 8.8 at most iirc. Let's hope they don't get shelved again once that time comes.
And î oop1 votesits not her stats that are bad its her kit thats outdated buffs wont do much work, a new passive and something else to spice things up is needed, i recently stumbled at a rework idea for her e where it would leave a statue when she recasts it or at the max range if she doesnt and statue exploded and freezes if enemy attacks it, i think this is SO GOOD and has so much potential, also maybe brittle instead of freeze would be interesting