"I'm a ______ Main."

Highfather··3 votes·1,328 views

The moment you out yourself as a main of anything OP, you've lost credibility. Take Kat, for example, she's OP, and there's no denying that. The main argument of her mains is timing. But there is nothing about timing that separates a bad Kat from a great Kat. A bad Kat will blink in and kill everything. An amazing Kat will blink in and kill everything. Even if they gave her mana and reworked her passive to refund mana AND CD on kills it would be better. It would take her free harass away in lane, she would have to consider her harass carefully and limit her wandering capabilities from lane (which, side note, it's infuriating that even if you beat her in lane, she'll just roam bot for a double because even if your team listens and back off, she can kill them under tower and get away because of her resets) because she can't just use spells willy nilly. Make her Q a skillshot. It means she can't click on someone for free damage procs. These changes might seem harsh, but a GREAT Kat would still be able to use her, because her damage wasn't touched, but a bad Kat couldn't carry a game regardless of how bad they are. I understand champs are fun and become less fun with nerfs, but think about the game as a whole, how enemies are affected, how other lanes are affected, whether or not the game is enjoyable with you in it.

Edit: pretend this was a post about Lee and his mains.

32 Comments

bad arcade kitty3 votes

i dont care, i play kat because i want to run to and fro as an adorable little reindeeer

3tyson3 votes

This is basicly just a rand and demanding a nerv for kat right ?Katarina

Highfather1 votes

It could be. But it's more against OP mains. You could write several of these for several champs though. Champs that everyone but their mains hate.

Jamaree1 votes

What about people who play Teemo and Yorick?

Highfather1 votes

Yorick is decent. He's a strong champ, but not an instawin, I don't think. I don't top much, but whenever my team faces a Yorick it's not a "Hope we catch him out and finish the game before he respawns." type situation. Teemo is harder to talk about. Depending on where he is, he's normally dicking around (though I suppose it could be someone going top that wants a reliable lane with reliable harass). His E could be nerfed but given a stacking component, that way it takes more than 1 aa to do any real damage. His Q definitely could lose some range and damage though, or turned into a skillshot (I would prefer the skillshot option).

insaiyanbacca1 votes

just to put this in perspective, there are about 3-4 champs that beat a yorick in lane if yorick wins lane he can end the game

Highfather1 votes

Again, I don't really top, and I've never been in a game where he was so overwhelmingly strong we couldn't do anything.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

fair enough

Jamaree1 votes

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Yorick is decent. He's a strong champ, but not an instawin, I don't think. I don't top much, but whenever my team faces a Yorick it's not a "Hope we catch him out and finish the game before he respawns." type situation.

Yorick is anti fun to fight as anyone not named Trundle, Cho Gath, or Nasus.

Teemo is harder to talk about. Depending on where he is, he's normally dicking around (though I suppose it could be someone going top that wants a reliable lane with reliable harass). His E could be nerfed but given a stacking component, that way it takes more than 1 aa to do any real damage. His Q definitely could lose some range and damage though, or turned into a skillshot (I would prefer the skillshot option).

Why, it isn't all that strong of a skill, though is does show your bias that you simply don't like some mechanics and thus should be nerfed.

Highfather1 votes

I don't top very often so I don't know his matchups, I just know I've never been rolled by one.

You'll notice all of my suggestions don't even touch on damage. Even when I suggested a nerf to his E I also suggested something that ended up giving it even more power. As far as his Q goes, though, I just don't like certain things being point and click. His Q being a long range point and click blind just feels off to me because there's not really a way around it besides run away and hope he doesn't get in range. But if it's a skill shot, fights are more fair and top laners aren't forced to run from a hamster. I would suggest skill shots for a lot of things, Pantheon's spear, for example.

Jamaree1 votes

{quoted}

I don't top very often so I don't know his matchups, I just know I've never been rolled by one.

Which kind of shows the bias of your post.

As far as his Q goes, though, I just don't like certain things being point and click. His Q being a long range point and click blind just feels off to me because there's not really a way around it

Except you know...not being someone who relies on AAs because every spell caster just gets blinded...shrugs and keeps hitting you with spells anyway.

But if it's a skill shot, fights are more fair and top laners aren't forced to run from a hamster.

Just be a pointless nerf really.

Highfather1 votes

What, pray tell, is the bias.

Jamaree1 votes

You aren't looking at why they might have whatever they have in their kit. Yes, he has a single long range poke skill, in turn, he has no CC, no real escape, no sustain, no real survability, and no girth.

AetherKingdom2 votes

yorick is actual cancer gut him pls

3tyson1 votes

{quoted}

It could be. But it's more against OP mains. You could write several of these for several champs though. Champs that everyone but their mains hate.

Aehh i wanted to join in on the kat hate :p annyway i main Nidalee i hear allot of nid complains so i asumed shes sort of riding the op train in most peoples eyes i stil sort of disagree since shes totaly wothless if you are unable to land skilshots

SmknWdl3 votes

"OP Mains" Nowadays, OP seems to be a term for anything that someone is countered by or doesnt know how to play against "Kat OP" "Annie OP" "Zed OP" "Yasuo OP" "New Veigar more OP" etc, etc, etc. Ive seen almost every champ in this game at one point or another in the past month, called op. OP has turned into a term for "I dont know how to play against this champ for shit so I'm just gonna say they're op because there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that anyone else might know how to play against them better than I do because i mean, I'm the next faker. So of course I'm always right." Please, please, stop calling things op, stop bitching, learn to fucking counter pick, and play the fucking game. Also on a side note, katarina is very easy to counter. I usually pick yasuo or fiora into a katarina, but zed would work too (i cant play zed to save my life, so i dont play him haha). Any high cc champ also counters her in team fights. (Leona Blitzcrank Vi etc.)

SEKAI2 votes

Take Kat, for example, she's OP,

Nah man, you don't know what OP means.

OP champs are things like Thresh, J4 before nerf, Vi before nerf, Lee before S5, Ahri after dfg compensation buff, LB before nerf, Kass before tweak, release Xin, early Yasuo, release Zyra and more I couldn't instantly remember from the top of my head.

Jamaree1 votes

What happens if they were playing it when she was shit, or considered shit? What if they were playing her since before her rework?

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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What happens if they were playing it when she was shit, or considered shit? What if they were playing her since before her rework?

well, honestly kat was very strong since her rework and got only weaker and weaker and i doubt we have many pre-rework kat players left

Jamaree1 votes

Doesn't change the fact that she was considered shit and weaker post rework, how about a different example, what about Sejunai?

bad arcade kitty1 votes

{quoted}

Doesn't change the fact that she was considered shit and weaker post rework, how about a different example, what about Sejunai?

what? she wasn't people very soon realized how strong she became she was kind of bad pre-rework (but still pretty strong, her passive were even stronger, just her damage was more unreliable without the ult)

sej... well sej is a better example, she swings from very strong to pretty weak quite often

Jamaree1 votes

{quoted}

what? she wasn't people very soon realized how strong she became she was kind of bad pre-rework (but still pretty strong, her passive were even stronger, just her damage was more unreliable without the ult)

Bullshit, it took a good month before anyone began to admit that rework Kat was stronger then prerework.

sej... well sej is a better example, she swings from very strong to pretty weak quite often

Then why should someone stop playing a champion they enjoy just because they are now strong?

IcyPepper1 votes

I kinda main Vi, and wish her latest nerf hit a little hard. Honestly, they didn't even nerf her issues. Her ult's damage wasn't a problem, it was the range. If they gave it a lovetap of 50 less range, she'd have to put in a little more risk to ult (at least her main escape/initiation tool is the same spell, so she needs to mostly commit unless her ult's up).

My friends were weirded out that I wanted one of my mains to be nerfed harder when I said that, so I kinda get where you're coming from.

Phife1 votes

I played talon from gold 4 to diamond 3 last season before they nerfed the shit out of him, So if someone mains a champion Dont take it for granite.

360D3GR3SS1 votes

Honestly the moment people say they main anything except a role they lose credibility.

BluePolarizer1 votes

I main Yi, fk the haters.

SEKAI1 votes

Me too.

Let's team up.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Yi will never be anything to me but "Baby's first Hyper Carry"

BluePolarizer1 votes

You are silver 5. You are nowhere near Yi's skillcap, and Yi's skillcap is 1v5 pentakills in Korean diamond 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9yJM4bbQw

Only Play Darius1 votes

No.

TaylorGaylor1 votes

This is a long complaint about Katarina.

As this video clearly explains, she is one of the highest-skill based champions in League of Legends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASXfEwNUZA

BobbyCarHaterX1 votes

He is actually damn right. Blind are just too blind to see it. Soon the grand eye will luminate these people, who are not worthy.

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