his E was chunking 1/4s of my health at level 4. he solo carried the game. took the most damage. did 3 times as much damage as anyone on his team including their fed ad carry. took the most damage in the game. we couldn't even 3v1 him. his empowered q. healed him for 35% of his hp. laning against him. was the worst fucking laning experience of my life. so who the fuck counters him in lane
ShinkoMinori18 votesA tampon
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesA tampon
let me get a few from my mom they might work.
Ozag the Mighty1 votesRofl
Marshbouy10 votesDid anyone get a 
or 
?
If not don't make this post.
Pnakotic9 votesJust buy seriously; It's damn good versus hight sustain char.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesJust buy
am gonna be so squishy with that he will just one shot me
UB3R 1337 H4X8 votesThat's kinda the trade-off, if you don't wanna pay gold too counter him then give up one of your summoners for 
which applies grievous wounds.
CeexSett3 votesYou could buy the item that gives defensive stats, offensive stats, sustain, mobility, utility and carry potential at the same time.
Oh wait that doesn't exist.
It Hertz When IP2 votes
Wait, forgot the sustain.
CeexSett1 votesClose, but the mobility is a bit stretched :p
It Hertz When IP1 votesYou never said it had to have fantastic mobility. ^-^
hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 voteswhat if I'm AP. Morellos doesn't work unless I get him low, which won't happen after he 1st buys visage
Over Innsmouth5 votesIn terms of counters, the only real option you have is 
. She will destroy him.
Other than her, your options are 
if you can get ahead you'll be able to ruin him due to Vlad's short range,
; not as a Vlad-counter, but as someone who can get tanky enough to just continue to push waves and ignore Vlad while he takes towers - he also forces Vlad's to either lose towers for free or make him return top, taking his power away from the teamfights. 
is alright, but you have to be quite good with him to pull him off against Vlad. Just rush Liandry's and Abyssal and you should be fine. 
do counter Vlad, but only as long as they have mana. A bad Vlad will try to fight them while they have mana or be too afraid to come close for cs, a good Vlad will continuously trade until they are out of mana and then go for the kill.
Hope this helps!
Btw, I don't want to call you a liar, but there's no way that Tides of Blood is doing 25% of your health at level 4. Did you perhaps mean the empowered Q, because that's possible.
Avoiding the E and Q's are actually quite easy. E can be minion blocked, so just stand in the wave and you'll be fine. Q is hugely telegraphed on his resource bar, so just look out for that and run away accordingly. Also, if you can bait out his pool however you can, he's easy pickings for a gank.
OneExit4 votes
Ruin Lance3 votesgood question on who counters him i've actually been wondering this myself
i've seen all of them do good against him before so try one of them i guess
Serevas1 votesTF also does well once he hits 6 he impacts the other lanes to the point that Vlad's lane bullying is a nonfactor.
Only Play Darius6 votesThe fact that you listed clearly shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
Jayrett3 votesSusan can do great if he builds SV and vlad doesn't go deadman's/abyssal
IcyPepper4 votesand vlad doesn't go deadman's/abyssal
Is that Susan doing great, or Vlad not doing so great?
That's a gambit.
Jayrett1 votesVlad still has a hard time even with those items, it just makes it harder for susan to just treat him as a minion is all
IcyPepper1 votesshrugs
I'm just saying it's very risky to use "hope [X] doesn't do obvious [Y]" as a strategy. It's one thing when it's a feint, which is why vision is so strong, but hoping they don't modify their build?
Then again, lane swaps could happen. You could force someone to heavily itemize against you, then lane swap so they have a hard time against someone of a different damage type.
Only Play Darius2 votes"He does great if his opponent doesn't build X"
If a champion's success in a matchup is dependent on his opponent building wrong, then it's not a good matchup. End of story.
Jayrett1 votesSusan still beats Vlad even if vlad builds those, it's a absolute lose for vlad if he doesn't however.
Only Play Darius1 votesVlad has always been one of Nasus's roughest matchups, I don't know what kind of boosted Vlads you've been playing against.
hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 votesnasus just rushes SV and farms lane. If vlad also tries to farm, he eventually loses.
MunchCrunchLunch3 votes[{quoted}](name=Ruin Lance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qPrK86bm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-22T22:55:24.777+0000)
good question on who counters him i've actually been wondering this myself
i've seen all of them do good against him before so try one of them i guess
it seems like you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
Over Innsmouth1 votesThe Fiora has to be good to beat Vlad, and if the Vlad is good it goes back into his favour.
Renekton can destroy Vlad the way he can destroy anyone, but if he doesnt before Vlad gets his first item he's fucked.
Swain only counters Vlad as long as he has mana, and even then Vlad can move out of Q and W to negate a portion of his kit.
No idea about top Hecarim, havent seen it in forever.
Taliyah has the choice to rush Abyssal or Morellos against Vlad. Whichever one she doesnt will cause her to lose.
Mundo can't really kill a competent Vlad, but neither can the Vlad, so it's a noodleslap contest - same for Maokai.
Brand will be destroyed by anyone who knows how to dodge his spells.
Azir can keep Vlad at range, but once Vlad gets on top of Azir he's chicken.
Nasus shouldnt be able to kill Vlad at any point in the game, but Vlad shouldnt be able to kill him either (as long as he has mana for Q).
Kennen can go either way, but the better the Vlad is the harder it is for Kennen to win.
Malicious Metal1 votes
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Over Innsmouth1 votesWant my honest opinion?
It's a slugfest, the purest of slugfests. The key to winning is hitting/dodging Siphon of Destruction. If Morde can get his shield and damage, he's a-ok, if Vlad can avoid that, he's happy as a clam.
hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 votesDude, I'm pretty sure maokai would get wrecked by vlad.
Coperos1 votesNahh, just use 
. It's surprisingly effective.
Apocalypsic2 votesRiven is love. Riven is life.
newbin2 votesSeriously play a few game with him learn him and he is easy to deal with.
bro0rtega2 votesFor anyone that plays jax against vlad, I'd suggest you wait for him to use his e, then jump on him. If he activates w, wait .5 seconds then use your e. You'll take 25%, reduced damage from aoe, and no damage from minions. He'll lose current percent health and when he comes up, he'll be stunned. Do a couple more hits until he's back under his tower. This will either send him back to base or cause him to play defensively. Either way, you'll win the trade and get gold and farm or just more farm. Reply if you have any more questions.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesFor anyone that plays jax against vlad, I'd suggest you wait for him to use his e, then jump on him. If he activates w, wait .5 seconds then use your e. You'll take 25%, reduced damage from aoe, and no damage from minions. He'll lose current percent health and when he comes up, he'll be stunned. Do a couple more hits until he's back under his tower. This will either send him back to base or cause him to play defensively. Either way, you'll win the trade and get gold and farm or just more farm. Reply if you have any more questions.
dude i literally died under my turret from 100-0 at level 5
bro0rtega3 votesOk, so I looked up your match history, and your runes and masteries check out with whom you're matched-up against. But... I feel there are a few things that went wrong.
1: You didn't get Q at lvl 2. You should use your q-e combo at lvl 2, because with flask, you can regenerate mana fairly easy at lower levels, and at lvl 3, your power-spike is stronger than vlads (i believe.... may need to test)
2: You maxed E, I normally either max w or q depending on match-up.
3: After you died, you kept dying. Something to keep in mind playing as Jax, you need farm really bad. If you feed, your Jungler is NOT going to gank 4 u. so farming some jungle camps or roam is better than trying to farm and failing and dying. Don't go back to lane to die.
4: You shouldn't die under tower. Let me explain. If you're just trying to farm under turret, try and bring minions further back to be able to farm safer. If vlad dives you, then he'll trigger the turret. In a case in which you're both 100% health, Q-W to him, and if he uses his W, use your E to stun after he gets outs of troll pool. Then walk back to farming unless you have the upper edge and he's not running away. If you're too low, recall after you clear waves, and he has a 26 cd on w, while you have a 16 CD on E. He'll die if he dives you again within that threshold of time.
5: Speaking of Cooldowns, he becomes untargetable for two seconds, and your E dodge lasts TWO seconds. Basically, use your E very shortly after he W's, and you'll have a near definite stun.
Let me know if you disagree on something, I'd love to chat some more. Or let's play a game together sometime.
EDIT: I'm Talking about the match-up between Jax and Vladimir if anyone happens to get lost.
rtbf2023292062 votes
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can work
never lost lane vs vlad as fizz
Shonjl2 votes all completely ruin him, if no one got any of those then no one has the right to even speak.
ADCS destroy him if they have 
and either 
or 
since their maw will negate a massive amount of his damage and stop his kill potential extremely, and the other 2 items either completely shutdown his healing or inflict more damage than he can even remotely sustain due to having a high health pool. Even his empowered Qs mean little if they only hit for like 700 before resist are taken into account or that with GW will cut it basically in half, or the fact the ADC will hit that hard every half second anyways.
Mages just need and poke him down since they will hurt him far easily and more than he can heal himself, and once he is at the point that GW starts proccing, they can all in him and he can't do anything other than pool flash away or die.
Assassins can still one shot him since he doesn't really build resist, so a Zed or Yasuo will still eat his face with little issue themselves.
Want to know counters to him? People that sustain better than him. Mundo, Garen, and Darius easily outclass him. Mundo does mostly %damage since Vlad hp stacking won't help him much while Mundo will build MR to make him worthless and basically a free kill. Garen will basically reach a point that he will become too tanky to take out, but is more than capable of taking Vlad out with his ult, moreso if he is the villian, and if Garen isn't dropped, he will come back within seconds at max health which Vlad can only dream of doing. Darius will just get 5 stacks on him and then blow him up since the bleed will mostly counter his sustain while Darius's massive AD steriod and ult will make short work of him. Hell even a good stacked Viegar or Nasus will eat him with ease since Nasus with good stacks will heal just as much as him, while doing far more damage than he can output. And Viegar just has to trap him once to explode him.
President Swa1n1 votesThe way I've always seen it is you DON'T beat him in lane. You at best try to go 0-0 in lane and render him useless later on with your team.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesThe way I've always seen it is you DON'T beat him in lane. You at best try to go 0-0 in lane and render him useless later on with your team.
lmao he scales so hard. you kidding. supposedly his weakest part is the early game and so far he has illaoi and darius level of early games
Jet Sett4 voteslmao he scales so hard. you kidding. supposedly his weakest part is the early game and so far he has illaoi and darius level of early games
Someone found their scapechamp. Scapechamp: the champion you hate so much you say things that are completely untrue to spite it. For me it's Fizz. I say Fizz has no mechanics and is braindead easy all the time, but I know that's not true. Just like you know Vlad is nowhere near Darius and Illaoi in terms of early game damage. Though I'm sure you'd love to know his empowered Q heals more the lower his health.
President Swa1n1 votes(OMG ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTED ON MY POST O.O)[zombie-nunu-hearts]
So that's what it's called... I've been trying my hardest to not have a personal scapechamp and I believe I've succeeded for the most part. Every champion I consistently lose to just makes me think I'm bad (which I am). I also (mostly) try not to call any champion over powered and see the game as balanced for the majority of it. I realize that it allows me to improve rather than remain stagnant.
Jet Sett3 votesI'm sorry, I don't see any interesting board members here.
Anyways, it's good that you haven't got one as even if you realize that the anger you're feeling is just from frustration against the champion and not the champ itself, it still means that the champ is frustrating you enough to harm your judgement. The same way I fed Nasus as Vlad because "hurr durr I'm Vlad I can kill any melee champ even if he's a sustain tank with MR, HURR DURR I'M GOOD AT VLAD I SWEAR ON ME MUMTHER!" I mean seriously. Still love Vlad though, it's fun to be someone that can take a punch in lane, looking at you 
.
President Swa1n1 votesYeah, it's as if picking Vlad sends a message kind of like "This lane is either officially going to be passive or you get face rolled"
BluePolarizer1 votesHis late game is Vayne and Karthus level lol.
President Swa1n1 votesIf he gets ahead early, which is what I'm saying you should NOT allow him to do. In lane, his sustain makes it impossible for you to effectively trade until you farm enough to get enough items to burst him down and out of lane.
Yaskamasandwich1 votesBest I've seen is a Darius with executioner's calling. That combined with his bleed kept Vlad from successfully trading at all.
Ralanr1 votesIf you find a champion that counters him, please tell me. I hate that blood siphoner.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesThe 2 people that come to mind that counter him in team fights are 
and 
because they are the 2 last champions with built in grevious wounds
other then that buy on AD's or for AP's
