You know what will happen IF Rylais becomes a Mana/CDR item?

Goodnight Nunu·10/9/2016, 8:49:20 AM·74 votes·3,090 views

It will totally be built over item 3165 100% of the time. Why need some situational GW effect when you'll be SLOWING all the time, not giving up damage for the utility and also getting some of the best stats a mage would want?

Isn't that kinda counter intuitive? The prime abuse cases are burst mages building the item, usually having to rely on ONE rotation to kill and they wouldn't usually need slows as most of them even have hard cc. Giving them an easy access to Mana/CDR/AP as well as a huge slow would make them even more oppressive as they'd just rush rylais regardless.

Rylais should be a conscious option. You should go; Hmm, I really want the slows to kite better and help my team beyond my standard kit, rather than; It gives a ton of Ap, i'll just buy it.

Most complaints about Rylais stem from champions who would not need it/want it if it had low AP buying it regardless? Syndra is buying it as well, a champion who wouldn't even need the slows but she's doing so because it's a big ticket damage item with a great passive slow that makes it so much easier to get said damage off

I feel Riot has a bit of a warped idea of WHO should be buying the item and WHEN. The changes they might do would just shift it into being a staple rush item on ANY mage instead of making it an option like it should have been before.

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Malicious Metal10/9/2016, 10:34:02 AM28 votes

I actually think them changing it into this kind of item would create a lot more balance issues. Not only won't it stop the current abusers to get hit by the change (Burst mages and co.) but it will open it up to an even greater demographic of champions who should never be able to get reliable slows in their kit. Fizz Think about the perma slowing W Kassadin He'll be even more sticky and he really loves mana and CDR Ryze Same as the others Leblanc Do I really have to go on?

These will be added to the pool of champions who will rush the hell out of that iteration of Rylais while also making the champions who were SUPPOSED to build it a balance nightmare.

I can see no real benefit from this approach, personal bias aside.

Evewynn10/9/2016, 9:55:03 AM14 votes

To be fair they said that the CDR/mana was only one possible iteration they were thinking of.

Hopefully it's not the one they're going with, and they can find another way.

Just reduce the AP and give mages another 100 option so they have an alternative (preferably one that doesn't have mana on it).