A Replacement for Athene's Midlane?

Be Kind Rewind·1/20/2015, 8:58:23 PM·3 votes·639 views

Riot wanted less passive-farming forever by mages, so they forced us to hide back and use our little mana for nothing but waveclear, since we can't afford to fight with it.

Irony.

Moving on. I heard someone suggest Morello item 3165 become the new 120 AP item, with 20% CDR and Grievous Wounds still, but no Mana Regen - while removing Athene's item 3174 AP but giving it some more MR and a ton of Mana regen. (So that it is the mana Regen/defensive item, and Morello becomes a more offensive buy.)

Then someone made me realize.

We already have that...if you traded 10% CDR+Grievous wounds...for a free cleanse+heal. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710101718/leagueoflegends/images/d/de/Mikael's_Crucible_item.png

It is like combining chalice's mana regen with Morello's; it doesn't give you the slight early game damage bonus, but it's better to be able to spam with Mikael's than to do a few slightly stronger spells before going OoM early. Is it not?

The obvious downside is, again, the lack of early AP. But the large mana regen should mean you could rush heavy AP items immediately afterwards. (Rabadon's? Zhonya's?) So, considering the increased numbers of spells, meaning more waveclear and more poke...it might be stronger overall.
The current safe assassin meta (AKA the Zed meta) removes almost all early kill potential in-lane for mage casters anyway. (If you poke them low enough to potentially kill them, you're OoM and have to back off and farm passively anyway. And good luck CC'ing a Zed or a Fizz long enough to finish them off.) Therefore the slight early damage increase might be somewhat less important than the ability to push & harass continuously.

The remove-CC+heal active is really good as well. Like having a cleanse AND heal in an item, but which you can also use on allies, making the midlane mage even more valuable to the team.

What do you guys think?

Keep in mind this item only costs 2,450 gold - just 150 more than Morello's right now, and much less than Athene's.

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I think you vastly underestimate the use of 60 AP and 10% CDR, but if you want to try it then I won't stop you.

I think they're crucial stats...that mean nothing the instant you run out of mana. If we're forced to choose, like we are for the time being...could Mikael's stats, at such a cheap cost, be the better buy (at least against AP mids/AP tops)?

Heck, I could rush Zhonya's afterwards for a good chunk of AP, and have a lot of survivability. (CC clear, heal, and zhonya's active from my first two items, plus lots of mana regen and a healthy chunk of AP.)

10 Comments

Drunk Rummate1/20/2015, 9:10:39 PM2 votes

I think you vastly underestimate the use of 60 AP and 10% CDR, but if you want to try it then I won't stop you.

Erockandroll1/20/2015, 9:23:05 PM2 votes

For the Record, If I ever end up in the Jungle, every Blue buff after the first belongs to my mid laner. I have no need for Blue buff (unless maybe I'm Filddlesticks.)

Keep this in mind when you are Going OOM.

Be Kind Rewind1/20/2015, 9:02:19 PM1 votes

(Switched thread from my side account to my main.)

KidKaiser1/20/2015, 9:17:18 PM1 votes

pretty sure you can't heal yourself with mik's.

and besides. crucial poke points are at lvl 1. lvl3. lvl5. lvl6. because lvl1 = 1 point into damage skill. lvl3. 2 points into said damage skill or all skills open. lvl5 3 points into damage skill + all skills open. lvl6. ult.

with that said. it's easier to manage HIGH COST energy usage compared to HIGH COST mana usage.

"orianna combos ?! k. i'll just dodge it a few times and she goes oom while i ninja star double shaydoe the minions. hue," -Zed

edit: and the level 2 gib. forgot about that/