Hello my dear jungler. It's me, your toplaner

TrikzterzArma·May 9, 2018·2 votes·807 views

As you can see, I've died twice now, and I'm pinging for help. Instead of flaming me for the rest of the game, how about if you gank me and help me get back on track?

16 Comments

RaoulMay 9, 20183 votes

Dear Toplaner: A) You are not the ADC and B) you are the furthest away from the ADC.

If I gank your lane, I cant gank or countergank bot, which means I cant bring our ADC ahgead which is 100% of the game deciding factors come midgame. Sorry, blame RIOT for still noit fixing ADCs, and cry quietly.

TrikzterzArmaMay 9, 20182 votes

So you're gonna try to tell me that a fed Camille or Darius can't carry a game?

saltranMay 9, 20181 votes

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So you're gonna try to tell me that a fed Camille or Darius can't carry a game?

I mean, that's literally what the Boards usually say: "toplane is irrelevant and botlane decides the game"

Doge2020May 9, 20181 votes

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So you're gonna try to tell me that a fed Camille or Darius can't carry a game?

HAHA that is 100% not true, I won a lot of games as Darius and carried to victory. Most of this stuff is usually about play style honestly.

FOR JUSTICEMay 9, 20181 votes

you know not having a toplaner makes your team extremely vulnerable to splitpushing right?

Doge2020May 9, 20181 votes

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you know not having a toplaner makes your team extremely vulnerable to splitpushing right?

Not really true, most of the time if I am weaker than my laner then I would just stand under tower and wait for the wave to push near my tower. I will then either hold it outside of tower, and stack my q, or I will use my e to waveclear the giant wave quickly. You can easily kill the caster minions with a lvl 3+ nasus e. You must also understand that split[ushing is usually done to split attention from a major objective, so if your laner leaves from split pushing to help with an objective then you can start split pushing yourself and punish the enemy. Usually with baron recall time it will take somebody around 10-20 seconds to be able to effectively get to you after recalling from baron.

FOR JUSTICEMay 9, 20182 votes

its actually a general rule of thumb to not gank a losing lane, because while he could potentially get you "back on track" his time is most often better spent snowballing another lane to counter-balance yours being behind.

TrikzterzArmaMay 9, 20182 votes

So in other words, it's better to leave me completely useless?

FOR JUSTICEMay 9, 20182 votes

that's subjective.

sure you might be useless, but someone else on the enemy team is also rendered useless due to the jungler snowballing them. now, who is more detrimental to their team is all dependent on teamcomp though. i.e an underfed sion is still a lot more useful then an underfed fizz.

Doge2020May 9, 20182 votes

Dear other toplaner: I feel much of the same way for some of my games, but you could help out by teleporting bot or rotating to mid to help gank and secure bot/mid and yourself a lead.

That or try play a tank and just become a damage soaker for your team. I did that on Sion once, I won the game but I was 0/10. Good CC caused my team to win the teamfights and end the game

TrikzterzArmaMay 9, 20181 votes

Teleporting bot leaves the toplane EXTREMELY vulnurable, and the enemy toplaner will almost push down the entire tower, and have a lot of freefarm

Doge2020May 9, 20181 votes

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Teleporting bot leaves the toplane EXTREMELY vulnurable, and the enemy toplaner will almost push down the entire tower, and have a lot of freefarm

Yeah but if you can successfully get your teammates some kills then the free farm that your enemy laner gets would be worth almost nothing.

Or you can TP in to answer to when your enemy laner is teleporting to gank. But you should only do that if there is an important objective at risk or if you are not already at top lane farming. And if you are a nasus just don’t tp gank people in general unless you are fed as FUCK.

If your jungler is in his top jungle just have him cover top for you while you tp bot. And btw in most games, at least your outer tower will fall at some point in the game. One mistake that I see a lot is when people try to single handily fight 3 people and a giant ass minion wave to prevent a tower that is almost dead from falling.

WukongMainMay 9, 20182 votes

Honestly i have felt success in that same situation by completely rotating away from top. I'll just flat out roam to bot lane and turn it into a tower + dragon or at least one of them. i'll return to top to clear wave then leave again.

The way i see it you're being strangled top lane, You can stay there being strangled and slowly fight and fight till you get weaker and weaker. Or you can just leave and get a breath of fresh air and make you and your allies stronger to fight against the enemy beast you have created top lane. Encourage your mid and jungle to try for a Rift as well because that's basically a free tower kill which will help give global gold, Aiding in the fight against the beast you have created.

If you think your bot lane can freely farm cs against the top lane beast you have created you could suggest a lane swap but i haven't found success in my elo asking that they either ignore me or take too long going top and top tower falls.

idk, Just my 2 cents :). Leaving the lane basically. Risky though you're essentially speeding up your lane phase!! Your tower WILL fall. So you **HAVE **to get something in return. My theory is that you'll lose your tower anyway(since you're so far behind). so you may as well trade it for something else on the map and hopefully you can free farm at your tier 2 turret or since enemy will be even more pushed your Jungler and Mid might coordinate a 3 on 1 gank.

Doge2020May 9, 20181 votes

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Honestly i have felt success in that same situation by completely rotating away from top. I'll just flat out roam to bot lane and turn it into a tower + dragon or at least one of them. i'll return to top to clear wave then leave again.

The way i see it you're being strangled top lane, You can stay there being strangled and slowly fight and fight till you get weaker and weaker. Or you can just leave and get a breath of fresh air and make you and your allies stronger to fight against the enemy beast you have created top lane. Encourage your mid and jungle to try for a Rift as well because that's basically a free tower kill which will help give global gold, Aiding in the fight against the beast you have created.

If you think your bot lane can freely farm cs against the top lane beast you have created you could suggest a lane swap but i haven't found success in my elo asking that they either ignore me or take too long going top and top tower falls.

idk, Just my 2 cents :). Leaving the lane basically. Risky though you're essentially speeding up your lane phase!! Your tower WILL fall. So you **HAVE **to get something in return. My theory is that you'll lose your tower anyway(since you're so far behind). so you may as well trade it for something else on the map and hopefully you can free farm at your tier 2 turret or since enemy will be even more pushed your Jungler and Mid might coordinate a 3 on 1 gank.

I like to try and do that sometimes, coordinate a tp gank with my bot lane. But usually they can’t get a deep enough ward for me to tp to. And because I play nasus a lot, I usually free farm top, and if the enemy laner has not come back in more than 20 seconds then I will usually try and push for tower. Usually if I am free farming my laner will try to gank somebody, which almost always ends up with a free tower for me and hopefully an unsuccessful gank for my enemy laner.

DestructoDaveMay 9, 20181 votes

Top lane is incredibly hard to get back on track. Especially with all the carries and bruisers people play. When you have died 2-3 times to Darius/Camille/Riven/whatever the hell you died to, there is a very strong chance that he can 2v1 you both. Or, its a 100% guaranteed loss if ANYONE else shows up during the gank.

Especially since you probably picked some kind of carry yourself. Its hard to gank that. Especially when you can just go bot where no matter how fed the enemy ADC is, hes still squishy and can easily die if he gets CC'd or mis-positions during the gank. Mid, too.

If you are a tank and died 2/3 times, it honestly doesnt matter. Hell, you are better off just being left alone so he can possibly get mid/bot ahead so that you can just out-tank whatever it was killing you when the real game starts.

People really dont get it up there. Tank carries are stat balls most of the time and when one gets ahead he stays ahead, and he can easily 2v1 the JG and you.

RedPanndaMay 9, 20181 votes

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As you can see, I've died twice now, and I'm pinging for help. Instead of flaming me for the rest of the game, how about if you gank me and help me get back on track?

Hello my dear top laner, it's me your jungler. As you can see you have died twice now. Instead of pinging a hundred times and inting into that fed Tryndamere for the rest of the game, how about you play safe and farm under tower because I'm trying to stop the Kai'sa bot lane from snowballing into an unstoppable killing machine. If I have some free time after that I'll do what I can to help out but losing top tower isn't the end of the world, losing bot lane at 8 minutes and a dragon is. There is also a middle lane that you can ask for help if I am otherwise occupied. Thank you for understanding and I wish you the best of luck.

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