Damage over time abilities only proc Spellthief's once.

MrSc0tty·Sep 24, 2014·3 votes·491 views

Just like ranged autos not getting the execute on Targons, this is a needed change to balance the support item line.

Morgana should not get 3 instant procs for casting W. Thank you.

8 Comments

JustMyBassCannonSep 24, 20142 votes

I don't see why this is a problem.

One specific champion scales particularly well with the mechanics of one specific item line. That sounds like normal synergy to me.

MrSc0ttySep 24, 20142 votes

"One particular item line is broken in it's interaction with one particular champion" is a problem that sometimes occurs and needs to be fixed. Morgana is pick/ban right now because she can poke with her undodgeable W and get a free 15g and 30 damage. It's counter to what is meant to be the downside of Morgana (low front end harass damage) while giving her stronger, more reliable income than any other support.

Fix it before you nerf Morgana's kit, and maybe her kit won't have to be Nerfed as hard. Pretty win/win for Morgana players especially if they like her mid.

JustMyBassCannonOct 8, 20141 votes

The only reason this interaction exists is because Morgana is the only support champion with a non-ultimate DoT in her kit, unless you count all the random champions who also have support tags like Gangplank and Fiddlesticks.

There isn't a single item that only interacts once per DoT. Black Cleaver, Rylai's, Liandry's... they all activate on each individual instance of damage dealt. That's by design, not mistake.

And any smart player against a Morgana is standing away from minions, either forcing her to farm minions (and turn off Spellthief) or target the champion (and miss minion farm for an entire wave). Either way, she doesn't get as much income as you think (when you think)

MrSc0ttyOct 10, 20141 votes

The only reason this interaction exists is because Morgana is the only support champion with a non-ultimate DoT in her kit, unless you count all the random champions who also have support tags like Gangplank and Fiddlesticks.

There isn't a single item that only interacts once per DoT. Black Cleaver, Rylai's, Liandry's... they all activate on each individual instance of damage dealt. That's by design, not mistake.

And any smart player against a Morgana is standing away from minions, either forcing her to farm minions (and turn off Spellthief) or target the champion (and miss minion farm for an entire wave). Either way, she doesn't get as much income as you think (when you think)

What's a karma?

JustMyBassCannonOct 11, 20141 votes

What's a karma?

Fair enough, I forgot about one of the two support champions I actually enjoy playing.

There are two support champions with DoT effects that can tick all the points of Spellthief/Frostfang/Frost Queen's Claim consistently.

So what about the effects that still tick their effects multiple times on DoTs? Are we going to nerf pretty much every single DoT spell by making all spell-interacting items only work once per spell? Or just specifically Spellthief on Morgana and Karma, because screw consistency?

ValyrianBladeSep 24, 20141 votes

I thought there was a time between procs on the same target? Would also mention that there's no reason to stand in her w and let it proc while you take damage... If you're deciding to just stand in there perhaps she deserves the extra procs. If it hits multiple players she definitely deserves a proc on each.

MrSc0ttySep 24, 20141 votes

Each tick (quarter of a second? Half a second?) grants a proc.

One for hitting each target, definitely. But as it is currently, if she casts it in you and you are standing in the center, by the time you walk off it she gets three procs. Which, it's worth noting, also adds size able bonus damage in addition to being a zero risk way of getting 15g.