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My last couple losses.

DrNova··1 votes·473 views

This is why the ranking system needs to account for personal performance and not soley off of win/loss. Nearly every one of these losses was because of bad teams. Most of them I did pretty well in. But often there is nothing you can do. If you get lucky and have a bad streak of these kinds of teams, your rank will plummet. You hope to get a good stretch of luck and hope the other guy gets the worse teams.

I'm better then the division im in, its just like pulling teeth to get out. I've made it up several times, only to hit a bad stretch of teams and drop like a rock. Climbing again, but its stupid slow, and all dependent on the teams I get. I generally always play well personally, but I have no control over the teams I get. Yet the rank system doesnt account for this, play great and still lose because of a really bad team, lose 21LP? It just isnt right.

1-Game starts well, me and blitz rocking the bot. Our Lee Sin keeps trying to gank top and dying to poppy, dies a few times to gragas trying to gank him in his jungle. Keeps trying to solo even though he is behind and they are fed. Spends all game telling everyone else how bad they are. Yas dies a few times to lane, several times to my bot, ignoring all pings when I tell him she is coming his way. Played as hard as I could, unwinnable.

2-Everyone but last pick locked in, top left. Last pick trolls and auto locks thresh sup, so we have two supports. I beg lux to take mid so I can go top, she refused. Adc and thresh go top lux stays bot. Our jung Voli starts bitching about thresh autolocking and starts intentionally feeding and refusing to help. Try hard to carry and almost manage, but between voli feeding and our fucked up team comp i cant do it.

3-I had computer issues, loss mainly my fault

4-Every other lane started feeding early and feeding hard. I held even in my lane. Didnt own it but kept it stalled and even. Didnt start dying till i met really fed mid and bot. Everyone else on my team spent all game arguing with eachother, /allchat complaining. All. Game.

5-To much weight to carry. ADC made poor plays all game and was innefectual. No one but my top was even close to an even KDA. The rest of my team fed their ADC and Jung. I smoked my lane, ganked adc a ton. Nothing else I could have done.

6-Again I did well. Had a tough lane vs Heim and stayed ahead in kills and even in CS. Jung died just about every time he tried to gank a lane. Mid game he stopped being anywhere around the team and "splitpushed" the rest of the game, never actually taking any towers. Top lane chased for miles to his death often. Got a number of kills for it but died every time deep in enemy jungle. Adc ragged on jung most of the game, very toxic.

7-This one was likely on me. I was adc, Enemy Naut just was nailing his hooks, and jinx ran away with the game

8-Was support. Found out after the game started Siver was first time siv, and doesnt adc in ranked. Jungle and Top fighting all game because jungle wouldnt give top their first gromp. Everyone focus'd tanks every fight even though asked many times not to. More arguing then playing though. Not much I could do as support.

9-Another team full of bad players. Top was good, only other one. Tried hard to carry but bot and jung were too bad.
Support feeding like hell and using typical defence mechanisms like "Oh this is just a smurf" and "oh im just messing around".

10-Again had to support. Again entire team fed pretty hard. ADC had zero positioning/kiting ability, top garen would chase enemies for days and end up dead 3 min later. Mid went Kat and did the noob dive ult just cause ult was up every time. Jungle seemed nonexistant dont even know what happened to him. I went support shaco and got more kills, less deaths, and more objectives then the rest of my team...

11-Mid adc and jung were taken, so I choose top with Wu. Game starts yas starts complainign he called top when he called mid in champ select, so I had to go mid. Was rough but did decently in lane. Bot however died a few times and proceed to begin arguing most of the match. Wasnt really a bad team just champ select bullshit and bot lane argued alot when they might have done better if they had just payed more attention to the game. I asked them to mute eachother but they wouldnt listen. I wasnt prepared for mid and didnt play to hot.

12-Was adc. Top taken already, and last pick, shoulda support, instalocked mundo. Tried to bully way to top but ended up going support, but with all top masteries. Proceeded to die alot. Mid was afk first half of match, so enemy mid and enemy jung proceeded to camp bot and towerdive me several times. Between 3 deaths off of me and 5 off of mundo, mid and adc got fed and just ran away with the game. Mid eventually came back and started instantly flaming me, even though her afk led to 4 camping bot.

6 Comments

Seriphym2 votes

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I'm better then the division im in

And that right there is why you belong in the division you're in.

DrNova1 votes

That has no logic associated with it. Ignored.

NoMonku2 votes

To some degree, there may be truth in what he said, he just didn't add context. The main reason I think he said this is because a lot of players say "I'm a diamond player" but can't/don't actually achieve their "real" rank, making their statement false. They often overestimate their abilities, thinking they are better then they are.

I personally don't know how good you are, so I am only going to make judgements based on your match history. I feel that you probably make poor choices or are too aggressive because you have a high amount of deaths, especially for being carry champions. Especially if you are at a higher level then your current rank, I say you are dying way too much if you are as better as you say you are. Also I feel like a lot of your wins come from you killing your opponent, meaning that if you aren't fed, you don't do very well.

DrNova1 votes

Your assuming I think im some golden god, which I never once stated. I said im better then my rank. I dont know where my rank should be yet, because i usually play better then my opponents, I dont feel anywhere near an equal fight in any 1v1 situation (barring being strongly counterpicked), so I dont feel like I'm where I belong yet.I feel this because I generally do better then most everyone else in matches (not always of course, but quite often). I have solid mechanics, watch the map and listen to pings, communicate, go for objectives, ect ect. All the things that to me are common sense, yet quite often my team and the enemy team wont do. I see when mistakes are made and try to rally my team in the right direction usually.

My KDA averages for my recent matches are in line with what a bunch of diamond's I looked up have (not saying im their level at all, just pointing out you say I have high deaths but my averages dont look so different from people better then me) I almost always have more kills then deaths. I get a bit aggressive at times yes, but usually with good reason to, which is why I'm almost always higher in kills, and by a significant margin, not just two more deaths then kills or something insignificant.

As for your last statement, you cant know that just by looking at numbers, thats just an assumption because you already are of the opinion that I'm just talking out my ass. I win without getting fed as well, my match history can show that. But trying to find a negative because I OFTEN DO get fed is just silly. Thats just stretching credibility to assign a percieved negative to a positive aspect of my play. The majority of my games I have a positive KDA, and the majority of those by a strong margin. I think that is a positive myself.

-edit- And I posted a log of my last stretch of losses, of course its all hersay, but if you feel like being anal you can look up each associated match to verify what you can. Most of them all are from just truly bad people who I am better then significantly in some way or another, or all. I think there were two in that list where I played just poor, and one where it was a good match that we just couldnt win, but the majority are because bad players made many and severe mistakes far outside my sphere on influence.

Often my losses are due to MULTIPLE people on my team just being truly awful. Not just one, which can be overcome reasonable, but multiple people failing and leading to a whole enemy team snowball of power shift. My win rate is around 50%, which can be attributed to the same chance you have of getting a decent team. 50% of the time you get a easonable team, and 50% of the time you get truly bad teams. Of course this swings both ways, but you can see how difficult it is to climb out of bronze hell with odds like that. They just arent in your favor.

Average players make the game more about skill. But bottom elo, there are not alot of even average players, so you have a huge negative already on your side half the time, swinging the balance more towards luck, as personal skill counts less when you have no reliable base team skill average most the time.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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blablablablablablablablabla waaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaa i am a whiny baby and i deserve a better rank since all that matters is my solo performance and don't care at all about anything else

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Android Cowboy2 votes

Him dying less won't win games populated by the mental health/mental retardation wards of their respective states who spend their time stinking up ranked with their neckbearded-sausage fingered button mashing skills. Gnar

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