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The meta could be a lot more diverse...

Hemulen Magi··4 votes·999 views

Here is what the current meta looks like in a nutshell: Top: Tanks, Bruisers/Juggernauts (AP or AD), Fighters (including bruiser-built assassins), Marksmen Jungle: Tanks, Bruisers (AD only), Fighters, Marksmen, Assassins (Diana/Nidalee) Mid: Assassins (AD or AP), Mages (Lux only), Marksmen Bot: Marksmen Support [Bot-Lane]: Tanks, Mages, Utility

Not bad, but I think it could be better. Here is what I'd like to see: Top: Tanks, Bruisers/Juggernauts (AP or AD), Fighters (including bruiser-built assassins), Marksmen Jungle: Tanks, Bruisers (AP or AD), Fighters (rarely), Marksmen, Assassins, Utility [Support Junglers building tanky or AP bruiser] Mid: Assassins (AD or AP), Mages (Any), Fighters, Marksmen, Hybrid/AP-On-Hit, Utility (Mage) Bot: Marksmen, Hybrid/AP-On-Hit, Mages, Assassins (AD or AP), Mages Support [Can choose any lane or roam]: Tanks, Mages, Utility, Bouncers (Bruiser Supports), Marksmen (as poke supports)

Next season, I'd like to be able to see things like: Top: Rumble (AP Bruiser) VS Sion (Tank) Jungle: Yorick (Tanky/Utility item 1409 item 3800) VS Mordekaiser (built AP Juggernaut item 1402 item 3116) Mid: Varus (Marksman) VS Ziggs (Mage) Support [Mid]: Kalista (Poke support) VS [Roaming] Trundle (Bouncer support) Bot: Azir (AP-On-Hit/Mage) VS Kassadin (AP Assassin)

Think it could happen?

12 Comments

BastionKross3 votes

I'd say this meta is very diverse.

You get to choose which marksman you want to play in 4 out of 5 roles. 5 if you play support Ashe.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Support Varus, if support Ashe is banned for being too OP.

Meep Man2 votes

Support Kalista if all else fails

Zarkkast1 votes

Lux only?

Anivia Azir Ahri Viktor Lissandra Orianna Lulu Annie Malzahar Morgana Zilean Velkoz

Hemulen Magi1 votes

Most of those have pretty low pick rates, except for Ahri, who is really on the line between being a mage or an AP assassin. Morgana and Annie are primarily played support.

Zarkkast1 votes

First of all, 70% of Annie's pick rate is at Mid lane, with over 51% winrate, in comparison to her support which is around 45%.

Second of all, Morgana mid is not as unpopular as you might think (it's actually the opposite of Annie's), and her winrate is a lot higher as a midlaner too.

And just because they have relatively low pick rates does not mean they're not meta. Especially Zilean, who's always been on the low pick side, but it's definitely in the current meta. Their pick rate are actually average for a midlaner. You simply cannot compare them with Lux who has a 20% pick rate.

Hemulen Magi1 votes

Alright, so if Annie and Morgana are somewhat healthy now then that's a good sign. It shouldn't take much nudging to improve midlane's diversity then. Nerfing Zed, Lux, and the mid-laner marksmen might be enough to see a shift towards improved diversity.

The hardest change would be breaking the marksman bot-lane domination and freeing up supports to be able to play more flexibly.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Well, any mid mage that gets nerfed out of high tier mid picks can primarily be played as support. =<

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

You can technically put assassins in bot lane or as support.

Hemulen Magi1 votes

"Technically" true, but it's not considered acceptable by most of the playerbase. A more diverse meta is pretty achievable right now since things like bot lane assassins are borderline viable. However, Riot is going to need to move away from enforcing the current meta to encouraging a meta with more playstyle liberty. They can start by hitting marksmen in top/jungle and encouraging other champion picks in bot lane.

The current meta stagnation is about 50/50 to blame on narrow-minded players and current balancing issues (marksmen are too necessary for objectives).

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Khazix is probably something so good I wouldn't consider it a troll pick or off-meta at a certain level. He's stronger than just throwing a Zed in bot lane as far as the earlier pre-6 game is concerned.

His kit has a lot of good stuff that can be used as utility and assassins are needed against annoying marksman comps.

Ralanr1 votes

I've been playing Sion top again recently. Pretty damn fun.

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